def mak "death touch"

[PassiveGuy]

Sup guys, I just saw a show on "Ripleys Believe it or not" They showed a blackbelt in some karate demonstrate the def mak on some guy with a heart monitor on, the results showed that the heart rate went up(they passed out) and fluctuated a little. This proves(supposedly) that the def mak is for real and only the "master" can revive the person that received def mak. My question is: If this technique is so great why doesn’t a "master" try that shit in a big nhb fight to show that his hands can kill with a light touch. If he pulled it off he would catapult his art which in turn would make him very wealthy. Is this art legit??? Any comments?????


thank yu

[Masala]

The answer to your question is simple, yet so hard for the ignorant to understand;

Once you have achieved the level of wisdom and inner strength required for the Death Touch, you are beyond fighting for money or trying to 'sell' your style through mass marketing.

I know the Death Touch, but do I want every snot nose kid from the burbs banging on my door to teach them? Of course not.

Give the 'grappling' to the masses and save the stuff that really works for those of us who are among the elite and have the clarity of mind to use our powers with wisdom and restraint.

Thank you

[assface]

***cough*** bullshit ***cough***

[YeLLa-TiGeR]

I saw that, its pretty gay......first he claims to teach dimak....he wears a karate uniform....the rest of the class have TKD uniforms.....his daughter has a korean patch....which implies TKD.

WHICH IS IT???

[Robin Hood]

Masala you are one deluded duded.
Why dont you get with the program dude?
Its a no brainer that BJJ is way better than that Dum Sum BS. You should change your attitude dude.

[Robbie]

Originally posted by Masala
The answer to your question is simple, yet so hard for the ignorant to understand;

Once you have achieved the level of wisdom and inner strength required for the Death Touch, you are beyond fighting for money or trying to 'sell' your style through mass marketing.



Thank you

But it was alright for him to go on ripleys and get some fame??

[Robin Hood]

That dude on Ripleys was Masala.

[Masala]

Robin Hood, I think *you* need to get with the program. How long have you been familiar with Bjj and grappling in general? 4 years? 5? 6? But before that you didn't know much of anything about it, did you? Instead, you and most everyone else here thought that flying side kicks and spinning, jumping back kicks were where it was at. But NOW you know the truth right? Guess what, we were always the fool yesterday, but today we are wise.

I find it funny how everyone is always so sure that they know the truth TODAY even though their opinions have changed time and time again over the years and each time they thought they knew the truth.

Isn't it possible that, just like 10 years ago when there were a ton of Brazilians who knew Bjj but you didn't know it even exsisted, there are now other arts and techniques in the world that are extremely effective, but that you are unaware of?

As for the guy on Ripplys....I don't know who he is, but even those who have achieved the Death Touch ability, can still lose their way. No one is ever beyond losing their way and I sincearly hope that this individual finds the Path again. Even Jesus lost his way and had to find the Path again.

Death Touch is no game, and is not something that should be 'tested" or demonstrated. We are not Gods; things can go wrong and a demonstration could turn into tragedy.

Look Robin, as you can see I am a 'newbie' here, and perhaps I am not as familiar with grappling and Bjj as I should be, but then again, why should I be if I know the Death TOuch?

All the best too you.

[Badger]

Was his name Dillman?

I read somewhere that Chuck Norris had trained with him hoping to add new techniques to his arsenal-Chuck was not impressed.

I believe the Death Touch to be a myth.
Myths are usually deluded from truths-I wonder how this one started?


-Badger

[What's inside a girl?]

Originally posted by Masala
I find it funny how everyone is always so sure that they know the truth TODAY even though their opinions have changed time and time again over the years and each time they thought they knew the truth.

So true.

Masala, you should bear in mind that 90% of the people here are 16 year olds. And we all know that teenagers know everything.

[Angel_of_Pain]

Masala, I think that yes maybe the touch of death is real and that maybe you know how to do it, but how do you know that you can do it? I hope you have not practice the technic whit a human, so the only thing I can think of that you could practice whit is a chicken. Did you kill a chiken? and just like that what does it give you to know the touch of death?
Inside a girl, I dont want to start a war whit you but you always talk about most of the people in the forum are 16 ,so? You should stop trying to blast people and start to help every1, you seem to have a lot of experience in martial art and its history, so why start war whit people when you do that you look like a 16 years old guy. just my opinion.

[Mickey Finn]

You mock that which you do not understand.

Masala, you are throwing pearls before swine. This is like attempting to teach astrophysics to your dog. We are on a different plane of existence and the ignorant will never understand nor are they even capable of being taught.

Dim Mak is real and the effects have been documented again and again. For a true Dim Mak master to consent to a “match” with an NHB fighter would be unthinkable. It would be the equivalent of Rickson fighting me sainted Grandmother. (God rest her soul) Oh wait, they did fight. OK that was a bad example.

Anyway, if you will purchase the latest issue of Black Belt Magazine you will see an article on George Dillman. Although Dillman is a relative neophyte, even he is stumbling upon the truth. Let me quote from the article:

“In fact it was less than one year after he performed a touch only KO that he performed his first no touch KO. Since that time he has knocked out more than two dozen people without any physical contact. Often, the subjects were completely unaware of what he was going to do.

One subject of this no touch technique was English martial artist Keith Gray. Gray wrote a letter to the editor of an English martial arts magazine: “I was impressively knocked out, without actually being touched, by the great man himself. As a martial arts instructor and fighter for many years, I would like to let critics know right now the I couldn’t have stopped this amazing feat even if I had wanted to.”

This is from Dillman, a man who has largely been self taught. He has never trained with a legitimate Dim Mak master as have I. I am currently able to KO a man from a distance of a block on a clear day. This is real. You and your bastard BJJ “art” have no concept of such things.

[Jaguar Wong]

Masala, LOL! I'm gonna have to agree with you on this

About the guy on Ripley's, his stuff worked as long as his students threw those hyper-telegraphed punches and kept them there after he blocked/positioned them. Striking vital areas, and "pressure points" does strange things to the body and mind, but then again, so does a right cross to the jaw, or even the nose for that matter.

If the stuff does work, then that's something that would have to be trained extensively to be effective. I don't mean that it's hard to hit the points correctly, but it's hard to hit the points accurately while someone is dropping the hammers on ya. It would be cool to understand the major points, and possibly some minor points and their effects, but I think one should also keep a good solid set of base techniques to use until they can spot, or create an opening. After all, the basics work real well (armbars are pretty basic right? ).

[Masala]

Thanks for the support guys, it's good to know that there are some people here with an open mind.

Mickey Finn,
To tell you the truth I have not progressed to the No-Touch stage, though with perserverence, a healthy lifestyle, and plenty of prayer, I am sure I will get there some day. I see that you are reletively new to this forum as well, and I am glad to find those who understand what is real and what is dribble for the masses. Mr. Dillman has always had my respect. I have never met the man, but he is a tribute to the importance of developing the mind. I am sure that many here lift weights and take part in other physical training, while they neglect the most important tools a person can bring to a conflict; the mind and spirit. All the push-ups in the world will not stop these martial weapons and a superior cardiovascular system will not keep a grown man from falling to his knees when his chi has been tweaked.

I suppose in the end, some must take the high road, and others the low.

Angel,
don't you know that Pain is a fabrication of our mind and does not really exsist? Are you the Angel of Nothing?
I don't mean this as an attack, but perhaps a name change to Angel of Illusion would be more appropriate. As for training the Death Touch; we actually use dogs. Before you think this cruel, please understand that we have a deal with our local dog pound. Everyday they must put many dogs to sleep, and so we provide a community service by doing it for them in our own way. It saves the employees at the pound time and heart ache, which frees them to spend more time on the streets finding strays. A win/win situation for all I think (even the dogs; it is painless).

[sccr06]

I am not really sure how to even approach this thread...I guess I will just say that the idea of a group of martial artists killing dogs with a death touch is knocking me out of my chair as I write this.

No offense if you were serious.