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  • #16
    Originally posted by jubaji
    Actually, there were literally centuries of relative peace within which people didn't spend every waking moment in desperate struggle ( ) and information was transmitted just as it has always been.

    Let's not get too romantic here...
    I don't think it is so much romantic as realistic.

    All I am saying is that there are a great number of technically good martial arts people out there, that have been given high grades and are under the illusion that this makes them a good fighter. There are a lot less people out there who have been given the grade "becasue" they are a good fighter. A large number of the threads on this site are about being able to fight in the street. This means that a lot of people take up martial arts to be able to fight. And yet very few of them ever get to, in the street or in the controlled environment of a competition within their own style.

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    • #17
      amen brother...all the people who bitch about the street never usually fight in the street and they think they are super badass invincible guy.These are the same guys who say that "sport" fighters would get killed in a streetfight these guys dont even know what the word professional athlete means cuz if they did they would think twice...maybe even three times.....but no they need the mystical shit to surive and fuel their egos and there "arts"....science and realism tend to put an end to mysticim....i mean hey thats why akido went downhill right? to think they actually believe a 160lb 60 year old "master" can toss a big 6'2 225lb pissed off guy by flicking his wrist and "redirecting his energy".....yea and paris hiltion is not a slut .

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      • #18
        I have to disagree strongly with that one. Aikido, like any other art, is effective when taught and learned right.

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        • #19
          Ye I kinda agree with both of you. In that a fighter is a fighter, in the ring, in his own competition or in the street only when he can and has fought. A black belt who has never had a fight of any sort if not a fighter! I have a freind who is exceptional at Wu Shu. But, when it comes to a fight mainly in competition, he puts down all of the acrobatics and hits like a mule.

          I do think Akido has some attributes as well as being extrodinary to watch. If (and that's a big if). You can catch the wrist right and the momentum is right and you are good enough, with little effort, a practitioner could bring down a much bigger man. However, all of that revolves around the "if".

          Paris Hilton isn't a slut is she??? I'm shattered by that

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          • #20
            Dude i was just kidding......o and you know that Dim Mak stuff...works everytime .

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            • #21
              Yep and now that I think of it, Dim mak techniques are used in streetfighter, you know the fireball ryu does?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by JkD187
                yea and paris hiltion is not a slut .
                WHAT!!! NO WAY (sniff) NOT MY PARIS she' ahh just finding herself.

                DAMN you are right she is a subpar low class dime store whore-but she does at least have a future

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                • #23
                  .................bump

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                  • #24
                    Want to point out how off topic this is?

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                    • #25
                      Do you think Judo is highly effective?

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                      • #26
                        Good post! I agree.

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                        • #27
                          love judo too and so is grappling....

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by tkd_person89 View Post
                            Is judo HIHGLY effective? What about its groundwork? Is it good?
                            It really depends on the school you train at, and the event you compete in. Judo is really good to know, if you are wearing a gi. As a bjj guy, training judo has revolutionized my BJJ competition stand up. Good grips kill most wrestling take downs (at least easy shoots etc), and this comes in handy against some of my BJJ training pals who mostly train wrestling style take downs. So for the gi, I've found my cross training in Judo deeply helpful.

                            For no-gi the Judo is relegated to a smaller repertoire of hip techniques, foot techniques, and leg throws (I'm thinking things like Tani Otoshi, and Uchimata). One thing that Judo really trains though is a certain explosiveness and speed in your game. See Rhadi Fergison, Dave Camarillo, Jimmy Pedro etc.

                            The ground work of Judo, at least that I've seen here in the US (and let me say it is a limited exposure), isn't nearly as refined as that found in BJJ. I imagine that will change a little bit because there do seem to be a lot of guys cross training in the "two" arts. I scare quote two because in many ways, they are simply flip-sides of the same coin.

                            Judo can be a huge component of your game. Give it a try.

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                            • #29
                              Exactly

                              Originally posted by Max22 View Post
                              It really depends on the school you train at, and the event you compete in. Judo is really good to know, if you are wearing a gi. As a bjj guy, training judo has revolutionized my BJJ competition stand up. Good grips kill most wrestling take downs (at least easy shoots etc), and this comes in handy against some of my BJJ training pals who mostly train wrestling style take downs. So for the gi, I've found my cross training in Judo deeply helpful.

                              For no-gi the Judo is relegated to a smaller repertoire of hip techniques, foot techniques, and leg throws (I'm thinking things like Tani Otoshi, and Uchimata). One thing that Judo really trains though is a certain explosiveness and speed in your game. See Rhadi Fergison, Dave Camarillo, Jimmy Pedro etc.

                              The ground work of Judo, at least that I've seen here in the US (and let me say it is a limited exposure), isn't nearly as refined as that found in BJJ. I imagine that will change a little bit because there do seem to be a lot of guys cross training in the "two" arts. I scare quote two because in many ways, they are simply flip-sides of the same coin.

                              Judo can be a huge component of your game. Give it a try.

                              "Brazilian Jiu-jitsu" is judo (newaza)

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                              • #30
                                As a system of self-defense, Judo is highly effective. This is due not only to the effectiveness of the technique, but is also a result of the training methods employed.

                                Judo has the principle of MAXIMUM EFFICIENCY or MAKING THE MOST EFFECTIVE USE OF one's skills, energy, techniques, tactics, efforts and knowledge.

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