Strength in Grappling

[pstevens]

Well, the truth of the matter is, there is no such thing as two people of equal skill. Skill not only pertains to physical, but mental ability as well. In grappling, a smaller or weaker person will recognize their situation by how effective their techniques are, then adjust accordingly.

In training, there are certain things you can and cannot do to people because of their body type, whether it be lanky, short, muscular, etc... It's a game of adjustment and whomever can do it better, has a better chance.

Also, conditioning has a lot to do with it. The more conditioned you are, the more you can hope to find opportunities or keep the opponent's weight off you. It's hell trying to keep a larger, stronger opponent off yourself.

Being smaller does not make you more technical. You become more technical by understanding your techniques in relation to your body type. Just because someone may seem to be moving slower, or not doing the technique the same way you are doing it, doesn't mean they're less technical. They've adjusted the technique for themselves.

[SamuraiGuy]

Heres just an observation... I find when rolling with big guys, of equal or slightly less training time than me..... they cant beat me....

for example there is a guy who probably weighs 230-240.... trained for the same time as me... and hes never tapped me... but I've tapped him... hes laid on me more... been tougher to fight... but hes never tapped me... now fighting a guy who was 150 and training the same time as me (im going with about 2 weeks difference as the same time)... he has tapped me...

I weigh about 160-170 for the record...

Another guy in submission wrestling who hadnt really trained at all, was just massive, and not fat either... fricking huge though... like 22" arms... with like no fat on them... and we did a drill where one person starts on the other back with the hooks in... he couldnt beat me... (he had trained for about two weeks)... but I could beat him... ( I had trained for about two months)...

I'm not sure if it was just the drill or what... but I find bigger people cant finish/sub you as well...

theres 140 pound blue belt who can sub me no problem, 210 pound blue belt who has to work for it...

(210 is also karate black belt etc, hes not a blob or something)..

oh and with the 140 pound blue belt... I can prolly bench 2.5 times as much as he can, squat twice as much as he can, deadlift twice as much as he can, he just destroys me...

[danfaggella]

In submission grappling, bulk has and brite strenth have less importance on the win, this is not to say they have no effect. However, A weaker boxer will have a harder time against a stronger boxer than a weaker BJJ guy will have with a stronger BJJ guy, this is a generalization but I find that most agree it is true.

[danfaggella]

"I want a girl that spends more time on her back than Royce Gracie.

I'll knee you in the face like your name was Josh Koschek -- Me"




OH GOD HAH I LOVE IT! I love Royce and all but thats just funny.

[SamuraiGuy]

lol... yeah I thoughtit was funny...

its not knocking royce either.... so its all good....

[Tom Yum]

Heres just an observation... I find when rolling with big guys, of equal or slightly less training time than me..... they cant beat me....

I weigh about 160-170 for the record...

oh and with the 140 pound blue belt... I can prolly bench 2.5 times as much as he can, squat twice as much as he can, deadlift twice as much as he can, he just destroys me...

I've had similar experienes; huge, intimidating looking guys who could definitely toss me around, but when I use technique and speed I can sink my hooks in and get a RNC or armbar.

I'm going to apologize in advance for highjacking this thread, but didn't you say your max bench press was around 350?

I'm just a little heavier than you and I can't seem to bench over 300. I'd like to be able to clear 315 for 1RM. Any advice?

[SamuraiGuy]

lol no I've never said my max bench was 350... unless I was drunk with a bunch of girls around trying stupidly (drunkenly) to impress them lol,

The most I've done was 270 freeweight, to the chest, pause for one second, full lockout, no powerlifters arch... which isnt bad at all..... thats raw too.. no bench shirt... anyway...

hmmm... bench tips...

well there is the old powerlifting method of doing low reps and heavy weight, but I found my bench actually went down when I tried doing things like that... if i am trying to build up my bench as fast as possible.. what I would do... and this is just from personal experience... what works best for me... is bench every other day....

what I would do is say.. pick a weight... lets go with 180 pounds... say you can do 180 pounds for 12 reps max... pick a number.. 7.. 8... something like that... do a set of 8 well say, then do another set of 8... then do another set of 8 (generally about 4 minutes rest in between)... keep doing the sets of 8 until you cant complete your set... remember how many sets you did... so say you did... 5 sets of 8.. and missed on the 6th one...

thats it.. all you need to do...

rest day

bench day again... 8 reps per set, try to get 6 sets without missing, and then go for #7, if you dont get to 7, get to 7 on the next bench day, if you do get to 7, try for 8, and if you dont do that, try to get to 8 on the next bench day?

Get it?

Now heres the kicker, when you can do 10 sets.. you have the choice.. to move up in weight, or to move up in reps...

personally I would do 10 reps, 12 reps, then 15 reps... and when I could do 15 reps (for ten sets) of whatever given weight, I would then up the weight and drop it back down to ten, its beauty because the ten reps at a heavier weight is alot easier than 15 at the lower weight, so your actually giving yourself a brake by upping the weight, haha.. those 15 reps are hell though you may want to avoid it... and thats about all I would do ..

it worked for me.. although a lot of people will say its over training, and alot of people would say it focuses too much on bench press/chest and triceps... I dont really care, I still did back and legs, and whatnot on the other days...

I hope that made some sense... I actually got a cd that I liked with all the songs approximately 4 minutes in length.. and I would just make sure to do a set before every song ended... (cheating cause you can do your first set right at the start of the first song heh heh)

Oh I also did this with no real diet.... so if you have that in check, bonus....

oh and another tip... TRICEPS... all about the triceps.. if your looking to get a big bench dont bother doing chest flies or any of that pec deck crap.. triceps is where it comes from.. yes yes...