Why UFC will never be as good as boxing

[Bjjexpertise@be]

Someone from San Jose take him up on the offer and shut him up please. Either that or we can elect one person and all chip in for the cost of the plane ticket, camera, and tape.

[EmptyneSs]

i train at american kickboxing academy in san jose, and our kickboxers usually destroy cung lees in smoker matches. so much so that cung lees school is now affiliated with us and came to AKA to get training from javier. if u wanna challenge grapplers, AKA has plenty of those too u are welcome to come down and roll, just make sure u sign the waiver.

[Art of Soccer]

I just saw the FSN special on Rich Franklin and how the UFC started.
Joe rogan and everyone is commentating how these athletes are better than boxers and deserve the same respect and money, etc.
I don't see how that is even thinkable. Boxers train hard to be boxers. Each fight is a boxing match. In the Ufc it can become a hug fest and wrestling fest. Boxers never consider themselves great fighters just great boxers. But MMA aren't fighters either. I mean I trained with Jobu Kan BJJ. My teacher never said to consider UFC as the ultimate testing grounds. One of main rule problems in the rules is that you cant hit some one in the back of the head. Or with elbows downward. If you were to train for UFC then get in a real fight you might loose. There is a pressure point in the back of the neck and someone were to punch down on it when you are going for a takedown, it could cripple you. Also there is a also a major PP on the middle of your spine and if someone were to elbow down on it it too would cripple.
I even remember a time during my highschool football game, where a player from the other school had chop blocked my teammate. Then my teammate elbow dropped him in his spine and the player had to get carted off. It made the news and everything. That was even through pads! So I kind of understand why UFC is frustating to veiwers. Why good strikers loose to good wrestlers. If the rules were different there would be different outcomes. (I doubt that Deigo Sanchez could even beat Brian Gassaway,if Brian were aloud to unload on him) but since rules are rules thats why UFC will never be as respected as Boxing.
Well anyways!
Peace!

So basicly you're saying that the UFC favors grappling?

Wouldn't that suggent that If you can win within the rules then you're pretty good, and if you win within the rules and against someone whom the rules favor, then you're even better???

I mean so what if you can't kill the person... is that really what you're there for? Just try 10x's as hard to win without your "Death Strikes" hehehe.

[jubaji]

I just know how to win against grapplers. .

Well, you know how to sling the BS, that's for sure!

[jubaji]

Why don't you think they do not allow, Iron Palm, Steel Palm masters to fight in the UFC. .

There is no such prohibition, you idiot.

[cam427]

This is another rule in UFC. Why don't you think they do not allow, Iron Palm, Steel Palm masters to fight in the UFC.

Not one single kung fu "master" has entered the UFC since it became necessary to qualify through lesser tournaments. This is not because the UFC will not let them it is because none of them qualify. Back before qualification was necessary they were all easily beaten (mostly by grapplers).

If you can break 8 bricks with a slap then how come I haven't seen you in the UFC (or even a minor tournament). Surely a grappler like Matt Hughes would be no challenge for a man as skilled as yourself. A single slap would surely end the fight . I would expect to see you flying up through the ranks, although you may get more work on building sites chopping bricks for the bricklayers.

I am laying some curbing at my house and was wondering if you are cheaper to hire by the hour than a block cutter.

ha ha ha

Cam

[ninjaiboy22]

Wrong again

There is no such prohibition, you idiot.

Sorry to correct you again, but yes there is.
I tried out for UFC in Vegas 2002.
In the interview they said practioners of Iron Palm practice were not allowed to compete.
Maybe its not official, but why dont you give em a call. Just pretend your a master, and see if you even make it past the prelimanary interview.

Damn Fool

[cam427]

Sorry to correct you again, but yes there is.
I tried out for UFC in Vegas 2002.
In the interview they said practioners of Iron Palm practice were not allowed to compete.
Maybe its not official, but why dont you give em a call. Just pretend your a master, and see if you even make it past the prelimanary interview.

Damn Fool

I wonder if this is true. Has anyone else ever heard of this before?

[ninjaiboy22]

Not one single kung fu "master" has entered the UFC since it became necessary to qualify through lesser tournaments. This is not because the UFC will not let them it is because none of them qualify. Back before qualification was necessary they were all easily beaten (mostly by grapplers).

If you can break 8 bricks with a slap then how come I haven't seen you in the UFC (or even a minor tournament). Surely a grappler like Matt Hughes would be no challenge for a man as skilled as yourself. A single slap would surely end the fight .
Cam

Its clear you've never seen a true breaker. Iron palm does not do it like Karate does. There is no Rasing the hand above the head and yelling with the strike. It as calm as a downward slap. Please study Iron Palm/Steel Palm before you mock it. At least watch some videos.
As for Matt Hughes, if you paid attention to what I said earlier, I am to big for Matt. More like Jeremy Horn or something. I might be able to get down to 195. Maybe Rich will come up a few pounds.
If you want to see me in action I will be in BORN TO FIGHT VI. I clearly won last time. Its only a Sanshou tournament (stand up & throws) but atleast you can see my power.
Then you wont be so quick to mock

[cam427]

Why dont you post some videos of your past fights.

Also, what is your name.

[ninjaiboy22]

Why dont you post some videos of your past fights.

Also, what is your name.

Dont have any,
Ryan M

[ninjaiboy22]

this is about as close to looking like me as I can find

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-324833605936347637

Of course watch what happens when the guy tries to clinch.

[warriorsingh86]

I think in a fight a boxer would come out on top against a wrestler as long as he doesn't let himself get taken to the ground, boxers hit harder then any other person out there so unless the wrestler could take a strong clean punch, the boxer has it won since he can just punch fast and hard and easily knock the wrestler out since they're not used to getting hit. As well boxers also have good evasion techniques so that could help them keep away from the wrestler in a fight

[OmaPlata]

Your right, that's one of the reasons the rules were made. The others to protect the fighters.
Comparing fighters from UFC 1-10 is like comparing boxers from the 50's to todays. Of course it was different back then. But the fighters who fought in the early UFC weren't martial artists. Look at thier records. Like the sumo guy or karate guy. They fought 1 time and 1 time alone. If you let "todays strikers" unload on the back of the head of a grappler, then the UFC will be a totally different scene. And dont talk about grapplers dont lunge with thier heads down.
Nuff said about this, it's obvoius none of you are martial artists.
You are all pretty much about as ready for a fight as that guy who turned 39 in those birthday pictures is ready.
Come train with me at Cung Le Martial Arts Academy 3469 McKee Road
in san jose and see how ready you are to take me down. 6'3 225. 6-1-1
Ask for Ryan

Yep, none of them were martial artists, LOL, keith hackney, ken shamrock, and those others were just regular joes.
Funny how I know you would get totally schooled and dont know shiit about MMA or BJJ, you post your height and weight, LOL LIKE THAT MEANS ANYTHING LOLOLOLOLOLOOLOL.

[OmaPlata]

this is about as close to looking like me as I can find

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-324833605936347637

Of course watch what happens when the guy tries to clinch.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL what the hell ??????? You can beat a skinny boy that has no skills standing or on the ground? You call that a "clintch" ?? The kid could have tripped the guy "looking like" you easily if had any training.
IRON PALM LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL I cant stop laughing. sorry, ok now back to the UFC, they wouldnt let an iron plam fighter fight? ok so tell them your a karate goon, that should work. or better yet, go fight in WEC, KOTC, or any of the other 100's of MMA sactioning bodies in the USA, start "iron palming" people to victory and move up to the UFC. baaaaaahhhhhhhaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaa lol