Royce's No Holds Barred Grappling Abilaty is better than Royler,and Renzos!!!(PROOF)

[StrongerThanDeath]

exactly tuffguy and ground control.....I'm with you guys....

Renzo put a better fight than Royce and Royler. Sak knew his fight with Royce was no TL so he fought a very laid back fight and just wore Royce down to the bone.....

btw, Royce just let Takada lay on him for 30 mins or whatever the TL was.....and kicked his back.....WOW!!! he totally kicked Takadas ASS!!! Also it was freaking TAKADA for christ's sake!!! Royce couldnt even beat Takada with a submission or a TKO in 30 mins!!

sorry MA, facts are facts....

[Tiger69]

Alright, how about Royce vs. Renzo?

[Bau13]

Lets just cut the crap... If there isn't a Gracie Family NHB tournament anytime soon....quit all this I think so and so is better...All this thread proves is that Sak performed well against these guys..nuff said.....

[Martial Artist]

I'm not saying that Royce fought beter than Renzo.Renzo was Saks better opponent.But im saying that Royce has a better grapling game than Renzo Royler.

[GROUND CONTROL]

MA- you are wrong again. Renzo and Royler have won numerous world and national championships between them. They have also won many Abu Dhabi titles between them. What sport jj or submission titles does Royce hold.

I am a Royce fan. I am thankful he was able to win the early UFC's and bring bjj to the USA. He is capable of beating anyone at any time. But I don't agree with your idea that he is better than Renzo or Royler.

He is a better Vale Tudo fighter than Royler. Royler has no stand up game. But remeber to take into account Sak weighed 190lbs for the Royler fight. 45lbs more than Royler. He whipped Royler's ass no doubt. But 45lbs is just too much weight to give up to a fighter of Sak's caliber.

[Martial Artist]

There is a difference between Sport Grappling and nhb grappling.In sport you can do things that you just cant do in nhb.Royce has a better jiu-jitsu game for nhb than he does for sport.But he has a better grappling nhb game than Renzo and Royler.