Hey is sushi really good for you? In what way?
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Are Japanese naturally weaker? Ober?
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Grahf1 - Soy is an excellent source of protein, without all the "stuff" that's put into red meat.
But you still have to watch even how much fish (and what kinds of fish) you eat. Some are higher than others in mercury and lead. I know there are four of them to avoid eating alot of, and I remember shark is one of them. I'm not saying don't eat shark, I'm simply saying not to make it your main staple.
Ronnie.
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soy seems to be metabolised and digested a lot faster than red meat. after eating it, you don't fel all weighed down and tired like after eating red meat. i've read the same study that your talking about that was out recently. ill try and find the fish that they are talking about.
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Newbie,
Man that is some funny sh!t. The average height in the PI 6'5" and the average weight 350 lbs. If you believe that then read my advice to Yella Tiger under the Happy Birthday thread.
Dire Wolf,
I say eat sushi cuz it's damn good. And eat your steaks rare. There is nothing more obscene than a well done steak.
Chopstix,
I've read things that say the same thing. People in Asia now eat more protein than they did a few generations ago. They've also adopted western eating habbits like consuming dairy products. This has made them bigger.
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Interesting question. There isn't any research I'm aware of speaking of any differences in average relative strength of asians vs caucasians. But there are plently of examples to stir up food for thought.
One of my japanese cousins, Sho, is an amazing athlete; stood apart from the rest since he was little. Spectacular muscle development and always super 'ripped' since he was 10 with no special training or dieting(very traditional japanese diet)-wish I had his genetics, as I've had to work for everything I've got. MVP for his 'high'school's baseball team (not too familiar with Japanese school system; he's now 17). Bastard doesnt even weight train! My uncle, his father, is/was same way. He was a competitive sprinter in his heyday. No small stature either (a lean 6ft 90kg). Again, wish I had his genetics!
But during my stays in Japan, I didn't notice much difference in relative proportions of physiques vs that of N. America. Same frequency of skinny, thick, and unfortunately, fat people (not as much as US YET...but getting there). I spent most of my time in Sendai...
There are many asian (mostly chinese, but some Japanese/Koreans as well) world class and world champion athletes in strength sports, such as Olympic lifting and powerlifting. A prime example is Chad Ikei, a first generation american(his parents are full-blooded Japanese).
Chad holds 14 US national Olympic weightlifting titles and is the current world record holder for the 52 and 54 kg classes. He also holds the powerlifting world record for the bench press in the 52kg class. One of this country's best, he was a member of the 1994 world team.
As far as speed/strength/agility/coordination goes; the Japanese had some of the best gymnasts in the world during the 60s-80s. Now its dominated by the Chinese.
I think its more of a case-by-case individual experience here. What would you say if that grappling novice in your class was one of the Inoue brothers during their early days?
Perhaps he was basing his observation off his own experiences.
[Edited by Oberleutnant on 01-22-2001 at 01:55 AM]
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E1am
"Man that is some funny sh!t. The average height in the PI 6'5" and the average weight 350 lbs. If you believe that then read my advice to Yella Tiger under the Happy Birthday thread."
How do you know it's not true? Have you ever been to the Phillipines? Do you have any statistics that can refute his claim? I don't find it so hard to believe. Look at Samoans and Tongans. They are distantly related to the Asians. Not only that, my friend said that the original inhabitants of the Phillipines are called Negritos. Obviously, they are of Negroid origin. When the Asians migrated there, they doubtlessly inter-married with them. When you combine the height of the Negritos with the stocky build of the Asian immigrants to the island, it's not so hard to believe that the resulting offspring could be a race of heavily built people of exceptionally tall stature. All I know is what he told me. Maybe someone on the forum may have firsthand knowledge of the area or some statistics.
In the case of Thailand, possibly that could explain the dominance of the Thais in Muay Thai. If they average about 6' 5" 250 when they are lean and in shape, that would make it very difficult for foreigners to match up against them physically. Many Muay Thai practicioners from Thailand could easily be well over 7 feet tall 350 pounds and still be ripped based on an average of 6' 5" 250.
Based on what my friend told me, I would have to say that the prospect of Asians starting to dominate in ports in America and throughout the world sometime in the future is a very real possibilty.
Oberleutnant
During your stay in Japan, what did you notice in regards to the Japanese as far as height is concerned? My friend said that the Japanese were actually slighly taller than Caucasians on the average. Did you notice this to be the case? He said the Chinese, Thai, and Phillipinos were the only Asians that were exceptionally large. He also said that the Chinese government is actually breeding for larger sizes.
[Edited by Newbie on 01-22-2001 at 03:14 AM]
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Originally posted by Oberleutnant
Interesting question. There isn't any research I'm aware of speaking of any differences in average relative strength of asians vs caucasians. But there are plently of examples to stir up food for thought.
[Edited by Oberleutnant on 01-22-2001 at 01:55 AM]
What a freakin dildo.
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Grahf1-- fyi, salmon isn’t a freshwater fish. It is born in, and returns to spawn in, fresh water, but for most of its 3-4 years of life it is in salt water. The very few exceptions are tiny populations of land-locked salmon (that means they’ve been cut off from access to salt water) in lakes that have evolved into sub-species, such as the kokanee salmon (you may have heard of Kokanee beer, which takes it’s name from the fish); but kokanee is so rare as to be not nearly abundant enough to be commercially available. If you want freshwater salmon, you’ll have to fly out to one of the remote freshwater lakes that has them and catch them yourself.
Some people also confuse steelhead for salmon, but steelheads are actually rainbow trouts (freshwater fish) that have lived part of their lives in salt water, and so resemble salmon.
WIAG-- could you please reference or summarize some of these numerous studies?
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Since I'm not going to go to the library and check it out just to verify a statement on an internet forum, and since you've read some, could you just summarize some of the findings related to this discussion?
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