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"It was about that time I realized that searching was my symbol, the emblem of those who go out at night with nothing in mind, the motives of a destroyer of compasses." -Cortázar
From the SA gym's website: "Rodney King no longer coaches in South Africa and has handed his gym and all his private students over to his Gym Manager Nuno."
Yep, thats what I meant. Aikido could in thoery be used well to defend ones self, though there is no striking and the technique is limited. However, most places train in extreme uke-tore fashion, and no real world aplicaion i gained. There is an aikido place like this in North Kingstown, and though it may be a col place run by a good guy, its not ANYONE's best bet for practical self defense.
Then the Aikido in North Kingstown Rhode Island is very, very wrong....
PS: Can someone argue jubajis side for him on this one. I am honestly wondering why someone would take Aikido if they wanted to defend themselves, if they have a choice of other various arts.
Apparently I need to be a martial arts expert to express this claim. Lets say I do. Someone argue on the side of Aikido on this one, its alright jubaji I won't expect you to.
Then the Aikido in North Kingstown Rhode Island is very, very wrong....
PS: Can someone argue jubajis side for him on this one. I am honestly wondering why someone would take Aikido if they wanted to defend themselves, if they have a choice of other various arts.
Apparently I need to be a martial arts expert to express this claim. Lets say I do. Someone argue on the side of Aikido on this one, its alright jubaji I won't expect you to.
Yes there are strikes in Aikido. Usually the strikes are with the back of the hand or an open palm. The strikes of an experienced Aikidoka may often end up looking like throws because they attack the opponent's balance. Some "strikes" don't even have to land to nullify an attack or trip up an attacker.
I won't argue jubaji's side per se, but I will throw in my 2 cents about the self defense usefulness of Aikido. Aikido a steeper learning curve than most arts. You may feel like you're doing useless crap your first weeks of class, but let's put it this way: I'd think twice about taking a swing at most Senseis. Calm and friendly doesn't translate to weak by any means.
Just some wisdom I've picked up here:
1) It's not the art that matters, it's the fighter
2) Martial arts are not always self-defense oriented
Find a place that teaches practical self-defense, not traditional martial arts.
I don't think people that have posted realize how violent parts of Africa are. People send people with AIDS to rape their enemies. Gangs roam around with automatic weapons. People have attack dogs. Kidnappings, rapes, beatings, ears and hands cut off, diamond murders, slavery. This isn't Detroit or a shady bar, this is politically unstable mayhem.
Go to a school that will teach you combat awareness and aggressiveness so that you always have the chance to know when and how to strike first and how to attack to win/kill/escape. You need a place that will put you in the right mind set and teach you practical techniques in a very short time. Go someplace that does weapons training.
Traditional martial arts schools won't provide you any of that in an efficient and timely manner and everyone here knows it.
Eh, some traditional systems do emphisize that, certianly more than some modern arts (MT/BJJ/Judo/Savate/Sambo do not include weapons training, and from what I know they don't generally orient to self-defense, just competition).
Though I do think that even when traditional arts emphisize things, thier training method is ineffective.
Aikido does not teach an effective philosophy, an effective technique, or use an effective training method (again I cannot speak for ALL Aikido places) for the PUSPOSE OF SELF DEFENSE. Aikido has many fine benefits, and its philosophy is very interesting and most Aikido people I have met have seemed far calmer and "nicer" than your average Joe, which impresses me.
I agree with what you said Penance, but I don't think modern arts teach this stuff any better than traditional arts. TMAs use the combat awareness and aggressiveness and weapons and conflict avoidance more than Modern MAs, but I beleive that the modern training methos is far superior.
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