Chinese or Japanese?

[>:)]

Yes. Judging an ENTIRE art through the experience of playing backyard mortal combat with someone having some experience from ONE school.

Awesome

[danfaggella]

Alright then, lets see the other side of the argument.

Maybe if I keep proding someone will stick up for Aikido and defend its validity as an effective system of self defence.

[jubaji]

Alright then, lets see the other side of the argument.

Maybe if I keep proding someone will stick up for Aikido and defend its validity as an effective system of self defence.

Do you still not get it, punk? Its not about Aikido at this point. Its about YOU and your ignorant presumptuous bullshit. STFU

[danfaggella]

So, am I right about this assumption?

If I am or was wrong about this or any other assumption, point it ot and but down an oppinion, instead of getting angry and throwing out insults and smiley faces with little middle fingers.

[Anti]

Personally I think you should save aikido for perhaps a second art. I would encourage something else, like chinese wing chun. This could help with striking and some defense; if you can find a place to learn. Perhaps after some striking experience you could take aikido. aikido practices some multiple-opponent fighting, and thinking on your feet, sort of speak. Also it involves throwing manuvers that could be intimidating aswell as effective in a fight. But, again, i recommend saving it for a second art so you have some striking and overall fighting experience first (since it sound like it would be needed more). I do not know much about Japanese Martial Arts, but maybe i can find out someday. If you find anything I may be interested in (anything, ha) message me. I hope I helped at least a little
~Anti

[Anti]

And for the conversation at hand:
In my opinion aikido is an effective style, and i think it good to take if opertunity wills me to do so.

[Sasquatch]

Jubaji, give it a rest. I come here trying to actually learn something, but I see childish quarells taking up the bulk of the whole topic. Forget about bruised egos on the internet, it doesn't matter. And resorting to demeaning insults and attacks on grammar, certainly aren't the way to make yourself appear right/more intelligent. I understand if you want to defend your art, but you NEVER EVEN DID THAT. All you did was attack Dan's credibility instead of offering a sound opinion. Instead of this being 4 pages of BS, you could have ended it with 1 polite, and informative reply.

[Sasquatch]

Jubaji, give it a rest. I come here trying to actually learn something, but I see childish quarells taking up the bulk of the whole topic. Forget about bruised egos on the internet, it doesn't matter. And resorting to demeaning insults and attacks on grammar, certainly aren't the way to make yourself appear right/more intelligent. I understand if you want to defend your art, but you NEVER EVEN DID THAT. All you did was attack Dan's credibility instead of offering a sound opinion. Instead of this being 4 pages of BS, you could have ended it with 1 polite, and informative reply.

[jubaji]

Jubaji, give it a rest. .

...............bite me

[Anti]

...............bite me

WAy to prove his point idiot.

If only there was a way to filter him outta threads or somethin.
Meh, Oh well
~Anti

[jubaji]

WAy to prove his point idiot.

Don't beg. There's one for you.

[Anti]

Don't beg. There's one for you.

lmao
ill be honest, that was pretty good.

[treelizard]

Here's a question. I was wondering if anybody who's done aiki (aikido or aiki-jitsu) in THIS country has actually done sparring that looks less like karate (punching the air and then stopping) or even against someone with a (training) weapon who was good at using it? I'm asking because in the class I sat in on, it looked like people were giving their opponents the shot. Having done wado ryu karate for far too long, I know only too well how easy it would have been for someone with just some quick jabs to fake me out, get through my guard, deflect/avoid the techniques I'd trained in (hey bad guy, you grabbed me the wrong way, grab me this way!) etc. And I know that in theory, aiki is supposed to teach you how to move as if your opponent has a sharp object, but unless I'm missing something, I didn't see people flow that way (which I imagine would include protecting vitals, etc.)

No offense to aiki intended, I know that there are hardcore schools because I've seen my friend's bruises after his seminar and met many people with serious injuries from class. I know it depends on the school and also on the student. And I'm not convinced that you NEED to spar to learn the technique (even though I think it's immensely helpful for me) because i've met wing chun guys who never spar but really know how to fight...

Just curious, though...

[Broadsword2004]

If you want fighting skill for pure life-or-death self defense, learn Muay Thai and boxing, wrestling, and some form of grappling. No one in any life-or/death fight reverts to using anything besides gross motor skills, because you are too scared to try anything without a 100% chance of working. Complicated moves (fine motor skills), even if you are good at them, you just won't want to try them in a real self-defense situation. Another good combo is some good hardcore karate, not the old-fashioned kind with kata, but karate in which basically anything goes, that you can use in a fight, along with judo and some wrestling throws. Remember, karate just means "empty-hand."

This is a hilarious example but it's like if you have a canyon with a 2000 foot drop, and you are a gymnast who is running for your life. Since you are running, you can either just leap at the last second, and land on the other side, or you can use your gymnastics skills and do a roundoff-back handspring, into a nice tumbling pass, and at the last second, go airborne and do some complex acrobatic combination as you fly across the drop, then land on the other side and start running again.

Yeah yeah, hilarious example, but the point is if you can just smash an elbow into the person's face, knee them in the groin, then throw them into the next guy and proceed to attack him, you will do that, not be bothered with some complex wrist-locks or joint locks.

Now if you want stuff to use for drunken brother-in-law types of things, then yeah fine-motor skills are nice because your adrenaline won't be soaring as much and you obviously won't want to smash an elbow into your brother-in-law's face (save that for the mother-in-law ) anyways, you'd just want to submit him with a nice wrist or joint lock.

[danfaggella]

^generalization, but IMO its pretty legit, a very basic modernism view, howeve ri wouldnt call it a gospel truth.

Sasquatch, this is what he does to everyone in every argument. There is no content, simply insults and grammar nit picking, thrown in with a bunch of angry little smiley faces.