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Originally posted by OmaPlataSo Hughes can beat Royce because Royce is a BJJ black belt, but then Hughes got TOTALLY TOSSED AROUND AND OWNED BY BJ PENN. Then you say GSP is on a higher level then Penn. Yet Hughes owned GSP? I dont see the logic, and the fight between Hughes and Royce will go to the ground where ROyce will own him. Hughes hasnt shown me anything else Id give him more of a chance, he got tossed around like a white belt by Penn and KO'd almost by Trigg who sucks. The only chanch Hughes has is to hope he falls into Royces guard and then GNPs him, which ROyce wont let happen, but it could. Regardless of who Hughes fights, a gracie or not, I hate that fucking dick head, he thinks hes so great and really he isnt., not on Gracie's level, but not a chump either.
Wait Trigg sucks? You're stupid... or mentally retarded... maybe blind... yea that's it!
Sorry, you're trying to fight logic with stupid insults... not good lol. Hughes altogether... is probably better with ground control... obviously not on his back, but with Gracie pulling guard on Hughes... I'd say it's a bad idea, though his only chance. You forget, Hughes is just as good, or maybe a better grappler than Gracie is.
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Originally posted by GQchrisHughes seems to exalt himself; I wanna see Rush whoop his ass in a rematch and become Champion, every time I see an interview with that kid, he's been nothin but humble.
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Originally posted by georgiei agree with you O ......hughes will be overconfident ...he thinks he can go to the ground with royce and pull off a submission......hes not even in the same league as royce on the ground....as far as striking, hughes does not impress me at all as a striker and i think he knows his strength is in his takedowns and submissions......he'll simply believe he's better than royce on the ground and will find out the hard way the lion isnt playing with him.......buuuuuuttttt......we shall see wont we?
I think again, you guys are nuts to say he isn't as good on the ground. A wrestler, who starts his career in middle school, is state champ(I think multiple times) in a tough wrestling state in high school, then goes on to a D-1 wrestling college and gets to 5th place in the NCAA championships isn't in the same league on the ground... he's been on the ground wrestling for most of his life, that notion is ludacris.
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I think it's going to come down to who can establish the dominant position first and capitalize on that, for some reason I want to see Royce take this one, see him leave the game on top. And I am no Gracie nuthugger either, LOL
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I think Hughes has a good chance of defeating Royce in the upcoming bout.
Not necessarily because he's younger, or possibley even stronger than Gracie, or any of the reasons already posted above. No, I believe his true advantage is that BJJ is no longer a secret to the rest of the world.
When Royce Gracie defeated/submitted all opponents with apparent ease back in the '90s, none of his opponents had a clue as to what was going on. That's not the case anymore. It's as if the Royce Gracie playbook has been open to the opposing team since what, the late nineties???
Don't get me wrong here, Royce Gracie is a force to contend with. His record speaks for itself--but what is it going to be like for him to compete against a younger man who already has a solid foundation in the same art that is being used against him? Hughes may not be as skilled in BJJ, but I think his mix of stand up fighting, wrestling and ground work should at least be sufficient to give Royce a run for his money.
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Originally posted by J-LuckWait Trigg sucks? You're stupid... or mentally retarded... maybe blind... yea that's it!
Sorry, you're trying to fight logic with stupid insults... not good lol. Hughes altogether... is probably better with ground control... obviously not on his back, but with Gracie pulling guard on Hughes... I'd say it's a bad idea, though his only chance. You forget, Hughes is just as good, or maybe a better grappler than Gracie is.
Hughes is maybe a "better" grappler than Royce? LMAO, ok end of discussion, you should put down the crack pipe and step back away from the computer, and then have Boarspear pull your head out of your ass for you. Yes Hughes has grappled his whole life with the best grapplers in the world, LOL, and we saw what happened when he did meet a real grappler, aka Penn, he looked like a white belt. He sucks. I give him a chance however, maybe 5-1 to win by decision
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It’s going to be a draw! hahaha!
So stop bitching about the same crap over and over and over!
Three pages of the same arguments and insults... great! It's going to be a pretty good fight. They are both skilled on the ground (Royces advantage), Hughes has better stand up, Royce has been working on his stand up (Hughes Advantage)... Whoever slips up first is gonna be in trouble.
I say...A submission win... but won choose a fighter. I like them both.
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Originally posted by OmaPlataTrigg sucks , yes, he got arm barred in the ADCC in like 30 seconds, he sucks on the ground. He might be a blue belt in BJJ at best
Hughes is maybe a "better" grappler than Royce? LMAO, ok end of discussion, you should put down the crack pipe and step back away from the computer, and then have Boarspear pull your head out of your ass for you. Yes Hughes has grappled his whole life with the best grapplers in the world, LOL, and we saw what happened when he did meet a real grappler, aka Penn, he looked like a white belt. He sucks. I give him a chance however, maybe 5-1 to win by decision
Wow matt hughes screws up 1 out of 1000 takedowns in MMA fights, BJ penn deserves credit for hughes shooting a bad shot. yep.
Then we see BJ Penn unable to break Hughes gaurd open until he lands a wild swing for the fences superman punch. He couldnt break a then BJJ whitebelt Hughes' gaurd open? Sick grappler.
Then he gets mount, and Hughes the wrestler turns over onto his back, and then he does finish him.
Whoopty friggin do, he knows how to RNC a whitebelt who gives up his back.
That is hughes no longer...... BJ penn did not show any great grappling, he capitalized on a bad shot from Hughes, then threw a superman punch after 3 minutes of nothing...
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