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[WildWest.]

I do agree it depends on the individual but just what i have seen of TKD i dont like it.

WildWest...Have you ever been taught Kata Bunkai or application to the Katas/patterns?


Hate Mcdojo shit too, USA is much bigger than UK so must get more of it but we get a fair bit here too.
Not mentioning any names or areas but a while ago there was a karate man, Shotokan i think he done. He was a 3rd Dan when he broke away from the big organisation and started his own, within 2 years he was advertising his self as a 6th Dan

No I haven't done Kata Bunkai, but we did dabble a little bit in it when I did TKD as a teenager. I would say that you need to study the applications thoroughly and then learn to apply them in a practical and realistic manner. But then they wouldn't be patterns anymore!

I'm not in the USA, although I've heard there are some shocking McDojo clubs there. I live in NZ, much much smaller but still they are around the place, however nowhere near as widespread.

[13ang]

This is the internet. You cant prove anything, its pointless to talk big, and its even more pointless to get on someone who is talking big. It means nothing, get over it.

Now, two things. First, you are obviously describing olympic style, wich is a SPORT, not a martial art. There is a reason all tkd fighters in mma are from itf schools.

Second, its absurd to make a blanket statement about a large group of martial artists because you beat up a tkd guy. I bet I could find a bjj guy that my 13 year old brother could beat up, doesnt mean anything.

Obviously you train for what you do. I have trouble sparring against this guy who is 6' and all legs, simply because he will hold his leg out in the air and round kick me when I try to move in (im 5'7). I always think how easy it would be to either kick out his base, attack his leg, or just grab his leg and take him down.

However we dont do takedowns in our style, so he has addopted that style of fighting because there is no problem with it, given traditional tkd rules.

It all comes down to what you want to get out of it.

[Adept]

Second, its absurd to make a blanket statement about a large group of martial artists because you beat up a tkd guy. I bet I could find a bjj guy that my 13 year old brother could beat up, doesnt mean anything.
It all comes down to what you want to get out of it.

Yeah, it's the person that makes the style, not vice versa.

TKD isn't ALL crap. The soccer kick is pretty nice and I think it'd be good for cardio or flexibility, among other things. TKD, like every other style nowadays, needs to be supplemented with grappling as well. TKD + grappling can be quite formidable.

[howulikemenow]

Is this a TKD hating thread or what. I mean most of the guys I train with do TKD I don't. But if you take a step back you are gonna get kicked in the head. I do agree that from what I've seen it is a money making racket, but some of the stuff they teach is useful. And everyone keeps saying that their high kicks are useless. Last time I checked your head is up there where they kick. Just my observation. Blast away.

[AllRounder]

funny how you say that. haven't seen any actions from you yet either. you sound cocky too.

i dont know, the "actions are bigger than words" card is hard to play on an internet forum...

Of course your right no action on here...

What i meant was there is no need coming on here saying how you can smash people to the ground any idiot can write things like that on a forum and its just a load of Bollocks. NO NEED

And im far from being cocky, cocky/bully is not my Scene.
Ive trained MA's for 14 years, any new people i meet or make new friends i never go off sprouting im this and that...just is'nt me

I feel MA's is a personal thing, i do it for myself for many reasons 1 being that i love it.

[jubaji]

Of course your right no action on here...

What i meant was there is no need coming on here saying how you can smash people to the ground any idiot can right things like that on a forum and its just a load of Bollocks. NO NEED

And im far from being cocky, cocky/bully is not my Scene.
Ive trained MA's for 14 years, any new people i meet or make new friends i never go off sprouting im this and that...just is'nt me

I feel MA's is a personal thing, i do it for myself for many reasons 1 being that i love it.

And how long have you been trying to learn English?

[jubaji]

of throwing alot of kicks is to put up a wall of lead nad keep baging his body and head to put him on the defensive then close the show with a punch to the jaw or kick to the same. I agree the the hight kicks of tkd are worthless for sd even though it could be done just look at the numerous 1 kick knockouts in mma but in a street fightI'd keep kick low and work punches elbows knees and gapelling i've been inot 300+ streeet altercation as a bouncer so zi'm not insecure baout my street dedfense ability. In the ring they can just bvring cauce i got too much game, to much slickness too much power nad too much tecqnie I don't give peole a beat down I give them a smash down and there strick I do'nt even feel cause I'm so jacked up.
As soon as I see there hurt i.e. smell blood in the water I jump on them and explode all over them. After I'm done with them I say here's a few dolllars now go clean you'reself up kid.

This post was meant as a joke, right?

[AllRounder]

And how long have you been trying to learn English?

Nice to see i have a fan, keep following me numbskull you might learn something.

[jubaji]

Answer the question.

[AllRounder]

Answer the question.

I am English NUMBSKULL and i also speak fluent mandarin.

You still have a problem little person??

[AllRounder]

the horrible katas of tae kwon do, the fancy and high kicks of tae kwon do, the mcdojos of tae kwon do, the mcdojos of traditional karate in america, the bullshit of american freestyle karate, the arrogance and cockyness of muay thai practitioners, and the concept of people thinking your a warrior because you have a black belt.

Good list, agree with all that

[jubaji]

I am English

Then why are you unable to communicate appropriately in what should be your native tongue?

[AllRounder]

Then why are you unable to communicate appropriately in what should be your native tongue?

I am perfectly able to communicate appropriately.

But for some reason you, The King of NumbSkulls, Black Belt in bullshit, Master of being an A-Hole, like to annoy people.

I am very bored of you now little person so lets leave it at that unless your that childish you need to have the last word.

[jubaji]

Look how a little humiliation improves his writing. (a little)

I am perfectly able to communicate appropriately.

Previous posts suggest otherwise.

[Blue Wave Gym]

yea

This post was meant as a joke, right?

LOL I can tell this guy's got no sense of humor how are you gonna be a fighter without a sense of humor? As far as sparring I missed an oppurtunity back in the day to be Rick Roufuse's sparring partner for a boxing fight he was training for, my boxing friend who seell fight vids for a living knew him and It was hundered of miles to milwakeee to bad it would be an honor to get beat up by Mr. Roufus.