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  • Diego gets props for that!

    Although yes, I am a Sanchez Hater I thought that fight was awesome.
    Not that I hate Sanchez I hate how Dana is spoon feeding him.
    Where is my Burkman, Stevenson, or Penn matches. I think he will loose those.

    Wurd!

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    i think diego would beat penn. penn has been going nowhere but downhill. doesn't seem like he takes his conditioning seriously. diego would probobly destroy him. stevenson isnt even that good. look how hard it was for him to finish luke cummo, and cummo wasnt even a good grappler, he was a kickboxer.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by ninjaiboy22 View Post
      Although yes, I am a Sanchez Hater I thought that fight was awesome.
      Not that I hate Sanchez I hate how Dana is spoon feeding him.
      Where is my Burkman, Stevenson, or Penn matches. I think he will loose those.

      Wurd!
      why do most wrestler/grapplers want to prove they can stand up fight?yes you need to be well versed to succeed in mma but why do they feel the need to prove they can stand up fight. if your breed and butter is ground and poound then why why why stand up? in the fights last night koscheck , great athelete and a great wrestler, starts the fight exchanging blows that look unskilled. then he realizes it is'nt working goes to his strong points and takes the fight to the groung very easily and wins the fight easily. i'm not taking a swing at grapplers so please don't take this as a knock. but why chance losing? ps i can't stand how dana white is blowing sanchez either diego seems like a punk and he is very good but he got in a lucky punch and i would love to see a rematch

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      • #4
        Originally posted by g-bells View Post
        why do most wrestler/grapplers want to prove they can stand up fight?yes you need to be well versed to succeed in mma but why do they feel the need to prove they can stand up fight. if your breed and butter is ground and poound then why why why stand up? in the fights last night koscheck , great athelete and a great wrestler, starts the fight exchanging blows that look unskilled. then he realizes it is'nt working goes to his strong points and takes the fight to the groung very easily and wins the fight easily. i'm not taking a swing at grapplers so please don't take this as a knock. but why chance losing? ps i can't stand how dana white is blowing sanchez either diego seems like a punk and he is very good but he got in a lucky punch and i would love to see a rematch
        It's called broken rythm. Hitting on the flanks or throwing a curve ball. Take your pick!!!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by g-bells View Post
          but he got in a lucky punch and i would love to see a rematch
          Lucky? I don't think you saw the same punch as I saw, but then again you sound like a grappler so thats a given. Diesel said he wanted to strike with Sanchez and underestimated him as a puncher or over estimated his own chin. As for lucky, that punch was textbook and on the button kid. You have to be well rounded, I believe its been obvious for sometime now that the days of the one dimensional fighter in MMA are fading fast.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Hardball View Post
            It's called broken rythm. Hitting on the flanks or throwing a curve ball. Take your pick!!!
            i completly understand that but why do they always want to prove that they can stand up fight with a stiker when there game is on the ground? i know it is'nt as simple as go in, take down, win fight. is it ego? i'm not demoralizing them at all, i'm a stiker so i can't answer for grapplers.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by GonzoStyles View Post
              Lucky? I don't think you saw the same punch as I saw, but then again you sound like a grappler so thats a given. Diesel said he wanted to strike with Sanchez and underestimated him as a puncher or over estimated his own chin. As for lucky, that punch was textbook and on the button kid. You have to be well rounded, I believe its been obvious for sometime now that the days of the one dimensional fighter in MMA are fading fast.
              i did not attempt to down play his abilities but it was acually the knee that knocked him out

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              • #8
                Originally posted by g-bells View Post
                i did not attempt to down play his abilities but it was acually the knee that knocked him out
                True it was that damn KNEE, I gotta see a rematch, I think Dana will do it too. Still Sanchez will win, but atleast a real fight!

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                • #9
                  That was not a lucky punch. Watch the fight again. The right hook knocked him down, the knee knocked him out. Riggs was just too over confident, and underestimated Sanchez' stand up... I really didnt expect a flash KO like that, fucking incredible.

                  Josh burkman would lose to Diego, i have no idea why you decided to pull his name up. Maybe youre thinking of jon fitch, and joe stevenson is at 155 btw... And there wont be a rematch.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by g-bells View Post
                    i completly understand that but why do they always want to prove that they can stand up fight with a stiker when there game is on the ground? i know it is'nt as simple as go in, take down, win fight. is it ego? i'm not demoralizing them at all, i'm a stiker so i can't answer for grapplers.
                    Because the fight starts standing and theyre not just grapplers or strikers only, theyre both, and they train everyday to improve their weaknesses as well as their strengths.

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                    • #11
                      that wasnt just a punch, from what i saw. it was a str8 up counter attack. he got away from riggs' hook and delivered his own, with devastating power.

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                      • #12
                        Yea, you could see how he stepped into it. Incredible boxing technique.
                        Last edited by 7r14ngL3Ch0k3; 03-04-2007, 11:40 PM.

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                        • #13
                          I'm glad to see Riggs lose. Seriously, I have no idea why he is still in the UFC when there's so many other talented fighters out there. Every time one of his matches begins, either Rogan or Goldberg reminds us how he was 300 pounds and now he weighs in at 170. Well you know what? I don't care. I'm sure he's strong as hell, but that doesn't make him exciting to watch. Hopefully Riggs loses his next match and we never have to see him again.

                          Diego is getting better and better, but I don't think he could beat GSP.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by 7r14ngL3Ch0k3 View Post
                            Yea, you could see how he stepped into it. Incredible boxing technique.
                            God damn i couldnt stop laughing when i saw that Riggs has NO CHIN.

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                            • #15
                              I think grapplers want to do standup because it gets more respect and is flashier. It's just the American mentality because the audience is still used to pure boxing matches.

                              What gets more respect and cheers from the crowd? A hard hit to the face or an armbar? It sucks, but they want to see blood. They want to see a knockout.

                              Real fighters recognize the skill and technique needed to work the ground as well as the feet. They can appreciate the elegance of a submission and what it takes to pull one off. In the competitive and the psychological sense, it feels like a more complete victory to a fighter when he can win without putting a scratch on his opponent and when he can win by forcing them to submit to him.

                              The crowd doesn't see it this way. I think grapplers have a complex about this. They resent the fact that they don't get the respect their tactics deserve, and so they try to prove themselves on their feet. They want to get more and harder hits in than their opponent and only then finish it on the ground.

                              Grapplers try to throw because they buy into the mentality of the crowd. Somehow a hit to the face (even if it doesn't finish the fight) becomes a larger victory in and of itself than winning the fight purely by submission.

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