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  • #16
    Originally posted by blitz View Post
    Then the russian is becoming one of my favorites too. Since I'm always attempting to armdrag these days , not too good at it yet still can't do it in the right time.


    Armdrags are great, very satisfying when you hit them just right. But if you have a Russian the other guy is most likely going to be applying at least some pressure away which kind screws the conditions for a good armdrag. A good armdrag relies on the element of surprise in my opinion.

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    • #17
      Well it rarely works the way I want it to, I try to surprise them but they end up powering back but I always keep the grip to try and use it to create opening for a double leg or single leg.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by blitz View Post
        Well it rarely works the way I want it to, I try to surprise them but they end up powering back but I always keep the grip to try and use it to create opening for a double leg or single leg.
        Yeah, if they pull back out of it, they sometimes straighten up at the same time which can make a nice opening for a double.

        Ideally, setting up a successful armdrag is like setting up a throw; you need to surprise them a bit and catch them leaning in at least somewhat.

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        • #19
          Flying Omoplata.........

          Actually it'd be any of the numerous flying armbars that I go for in practice, all in good fun.

          First day of Judo, first Randori with a blackbelt we clinch up... bam picture perfect flying armbar, he just looked at me and went "oh, I forgot you guys could get up pretty high there". (I guess "you guys" was bjj people?) Shockingly he didnt kick my ass... I dont think he really cared that he got beat, he could have tossed me around like nothing had he tried.. interesting.

          Another one is hitting one in a MMA sparring match in my school, with BOXING gloves on lmao... it was funny cause this guy was taking it to most people and then I just found myself in the clinch, with all the grips I wanted.

          Theres a few more, most painful one was getting slammed onto the kidney's by a provincial champion wrestler with about 40 pounds on me, during MMA, did I finish the armbar, yes yes, did I pee blood, yes yes.

          I really only do it for fun though.

          As for throws, a few Harai Goshi's one or two nice Ouchi Gari's and one sweet Tai Otoshi.

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          • #20
            I'll just go with my most recent since there are so many to remember. It was a rear scoop throw to a pile drive which resulted in me breaking a guys shoulder. He was young enough to be my son but was not showing me the proper respect in the Dojo. LOL

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            • #21
              One of my favorite take downs is too sprall just as someone goes in for a single leg, basically grab a guillioteen choke(sp?) then drop to the ground sending the opponent directly over top of me. They end up on their back and I end up on my back with them still in a choke/head lock. Since we are basically head to head they have a lot of difficulty getting loose before they tap or are choked out.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by jubaji View Post
                Yeah, if they pull back out of it, they sometimes straighten up at the same time which can make a nice opening for a double.

                Ideally, setting up a successful armdrag is like setting up a throw; you need to surprise them a bit and catch them leaning in at least somewhat.
                i agree with jubaji, russians and arm drags are pretty key. as long as you can get there front leg forward or get them off balance all you need is that split second and you can get alot of moves off.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Sandtiger View Post
                  One of my favorite take downs is too sprall just as someone goes in for a single leg, basically grab a guillioteen choke(sp?) then drop to the ground sending the opponent directly over top of me. They end up on their back and I end up on my back with them still in a choke/head lock. Since we are basically head to head they have a lot of difficulty getting loose before they tap or are choked out.
                  This sounds reaaaaaally dangerous, nice one

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                  • #24
                    It can be. I weigh about 160lbs and you should have seen the look on the face of my 270lb opponent when he hit the ground. He is not used to being thrown so it always shocks him when we grapple. My instructor has a rule that no one under 200lbs is allowed to grapple me, because I am able to pull these types of things off. I wrestled in high school but it has been nearly 14 years since I have grappled on a regular basis, I just enjoy the few times I get to spar with the big guys.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Clooneytkd View Post
                      i agree with jubaji, russians and arm drags are pretty key. as long as you can get there front leg forward or get them off balance all you need is that split second and you can get alot of moves off.
                      Exactly!

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                      • #26
                        Dumb and Dangerous...

                        Originally posted by Sandtiger View Post
                        One of my favorite take downs is too sprall just as someone goes in for a single leg, basically grab a guillioteen choke(sp?) then drop to the ground sending the opponent directly over top of me. They end up on their back and I end up on my back with them still in a choke/head lock. Since we are basically head to head they have a lot of difficulty getting loose before they tap or are choked out.

                        Originally posted by The_Judo_Jibboo View Post
                        This sounds reaaaaaally dangerous, nice one
                        I have been holding off on a reply to this because there is really no nice way to say how F***ING bad this could be.

                        I can throw down a 350 pound bull with a neck crank too but you don't play that with your friends!!! The force you use to flip him is enough to tweak his neck and kill him. If you want to pull of a variation of the so called ricebag reversal you let him have your leg(s) and sit out, you don't "sprawl" first.

                        I'm thinking this is bs or really REALLY bad jutsu.

                        But what the hell do I know???

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                        • #27
                          My best takedown ever was a Lateral that i hit in a match not too long ago. I never got to see it on tape, so i dont know if it was the cleanest Lateral, but it was definitely pretty. I dont know if the kid i threw was very good(he wasnt ranked) but he was obviously in very good shape, and the rest of his team beat every one of our guys (except for two of us, including me). I almost pushed him out of bounds, and then bolted forward and i just sat down, arched and twisted, and he was on his back, and i pinned him. We landed with me having my arm already his around his head, like a normal half, but with me on the opposite side. I dont even think it had a over under tie up, i think i didnt from just an overhook, since i didnt land chest to chest.
                          Last edited by 7r14ngL3Ch0k3; 03-12-2007, 07:36 PM.

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                          • #28
                            Tawara Gaeshi for you...

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                            • #29
                              The best thing about a lateral is that its so 'all or nothing.' You can either put someone through the lights or get stuck flat on your back; you just gotta suck it up and put it out there.

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                              • #30
                                this is actually much as i was picturing what he was describing tant, not actually leveraging the guy over by the neck but swinging the body weight down between the legs like in the technique you linked. the danger i see with the guillotine choke variation is in putting the crown of the poor guy's head straight down into the ground.

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