Liddell/Rampage 2 confirmed for May 26

[Mr. Miyagi]

I don't think Rampage fights like he used to either. I don't think he's going to get better again either. He's on his way down and Chuck is now close to the top.
Let's wait a little more before we decide that Sukoudjou is a top LHW fighter. Even if he does become one he still has a lot to prove, a 1-0 record doesn't cut it. If he beat Arona too then he's definitely top 5.

[JkD187]

I don't think Rampage fights like he used to either. I don't think he's going to get better again either. He's on his way down and Chuck is now close to the top.
Let's wait a little more before we decide that Sukoudjou is a top LHW fighter. Even if he does become one he still has a lot to prove, a 1-0 record doesn't cut it. If he beat Arona too then he's definitely top 5.

You do know that Sokoudjou is 3-1 right?

[Mako Victim]

I'm gonna light a candle and pray that Ramapage knocks that fat fuckers head off...

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

i really want Rampage to win!! The look on the casual ultimate fighting fans will be priceless.

[heyyou316us]

i really want Rampage to win!! The look on the casual ultimate fighting fans will be priceless.

I would really like to see chuck win but i have a bad feeling that Jackson is going to put Chuck out....If any one watched the countdown to UFC 71 The Natural said this is a bad fight for Chuck. Chuck doesn't do well when he's backed up.

[bigred389]

The cage may help Chuck. Harder to corner somebody in the cage.

Chuck is also occasionally known to use the cage to pull himself up...he couldn't do that with the ropes. Illegal or not, he only has to pull himself up, there's no cards, and UFC refs don't deduct points anyway.

Then there's the loss of knees for Rampage. They were never Rampage's signature moves like Herring's were...but they gave him another tool on the ground. That way he could hit Liddell for some major damage in positions where he didn't have other good options, but without having to shift position and risk Liddell getting away.
Having elbows may offset this, but only if he knows how to stay on top and work his victim over.

Closest to an even fight in a while...betting odds slightly favor Rampage, but this one really could go either way.

[treelizard]

Any opinions on the undercard? All I know is I want Belcher to win.

[Mako Victim]

I would like to see Kalib win his fight against Leben.

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

I want Karo to win against Burkman. I could care less about the other undercard fights even if they might be exciting.

And the NEW, UFC, Light-heavyweight champion of the world.... QUINTON RAMPAGE JACKSON!!!

[J-Luck]

Reasons Rampage could win:

A. He's got a brawlers chance. Any brawler has the chance of knocking someone out, no matter how slim that chance.

B. He's greatly improved since the last fight, and is young and will continue improving.

C. He's got the style to beat Chuch. A power puncher, who can take a tremendous beaten, and a raw, powerful takedown game that had the likes of Matt Lindland(even if he was a weight class smaller, he is STILL an olympic wrestler) off his feet multiple times.


Now, for what I feel is the more compelling side of the list:

A. Chuck is at the top of his game, and is on a winning streak with vicious knockouts/tkos of such top notch, elite fighters as Randy Couture, Renato Sobral, Tito Ortiz, and Jeremy Horn. I mean COME ON!!! Most fighters would LOVE to be able to just go the DISTANCE with those guys and lose! Chuck puts them down consistently(and sometimes, for good measure, he does it twice).


B. Chuck has a much underrated jiu-jitsu game. It's underrated because of the lack of people able to put him on his back, much less keep him there. Since Rampage could be the guy to do it, I also think, by the same token, he could be the first guy submitted by Chuck.(obviously this is a highly subjective point).

C. Chuck is very tough to takedown. While there is a good chance that Rampage could take him down, there is also a good chance that Chuck could prevent the takedown with strikes and distance, and outwrestle when he needs to. That, while not throwing a monkey wrench in Rampage's gamplan, could eliminate a facet through which he could win.

D. I think Chuck has better stamina than Rampage. I think he can go the distance with him and outpoint him. The way they match up could equal fireworks, or a boring fight till decision. If it goes to decision, I feel Rampage would come out the loser, due to his more reckless, swing for the fences style.

[J-Luck]

I find it interesting that people think he's going downhill. He's really just refining, in my opinion. I don't see his fight with Eastman being questionable, or iffy at all. I think Eastman is a highly underrated fighter.

[bigred389]

Reasons Rampage could win:

A. He's got a brawlers chance. Any brawler has the chance of knocking someone out, no matter how slim that chance.

B. He's greatly improved since the last fight, and is young and will continue improving.

C. He's got the style to beat Chuch. A power puncher, who can take a tremendous beaten, and a raw, powerful takedown game that had the likes of Matt Lindland(even if he was a weight class smaller, he is STILL an olympic wrestler) off his feet multiple times.


Now, for what I feel is the more compelling side of the list:

A. Chuck is at the top of his game, and is on a winning streak with vicious knockouts/tkos of such top notch, elite fighters as Randy Couture, Renato Sobral, Tito Ortiz, and Jeremy Horn. I mean COME ON!!! Most fighters would LOVE to be able to just go the DISTANCE with those guys and lose! Chuck puts them down consistently(and sometimes, for good measure, he does it twice).


B. Chuck has a much underrated jiu-jitsu game. It's underrated because of the lack of people able to put him on his back, much less keep him there. Since Rampage could be the guy to do it, I also think, by the same token, he could be the first guy submitted by Chuck.(obviously this is a highly subjective point).

C. Chuck is very tough to takedown. While there is a good chance that Rampage could take him down, there is also a good chance that Chuck could prevent the takedown with strikes and distance, and outwrestle when he needs to. That, while not throwing a monkey wrench in Rampage's gamplan, could eliminate a facet through which he could win.

D. I think Chuck has better stamina than Rampage. I think he can go the distance with him and outpoint him. The way they match up could equal fireworks, or a boring fight till decision. If it goes to decision, I feel Rampage would come out the loser, due to his more reckless, swing for the fences style.

Mainly...I would agree with the fact that b/c Chuck has been a dominant champion for so long, and avenged all previous losses, he's going to be confident going in.

But Rampage is not a brawling reckless striker. He actually covers up and protects himself better than the majority of MMA fighters. He's very technically sound...hell, Chuck is the guy who has more of a brawling style.

And Chuck isn't likely to submit Rampage...he's powered out of subs from Arona, Ninja, Sakuraba, etc. Hell, he turned the tables on a good triangle choke from Arona with his slam.

Chuck does have good TD defense, but last time, Rampage outstruck him, then used it to set up take downs.
And Chuck also gassed the last time they fought, though I'm sure the punches and knees to the body didn't help him much.

I still don't know who'll win, simply b/c Chuck always has the puncher's chance with the one good punch we know he's going for...except you can't call it a puncher's "chance" when he's done it over and over again. But stylistically, I think Rampage has his number, just like I think Wand had a good chance of beating Chuck. I also want them to throw Sokoudjou at him as well.

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

I don't see his fight with Eastman being questionable, or iffy at all. I think Eastman is a highly underrated fighter.

Yeah, his fight with Eastman was impressive IMO. Most noobs think it was a poor performance for Rampage.... Eastman is 5 foot 8, ripped at 205 he is built like a tank and is a legit kickboxer/muay thai guy, as well as an accomplished wrestler.

the reason the ufc had Rampage fight Eastman was because that fight was gonna be the main event on the seconds WFA card, before UFC bought them out.

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

Reasons Rampage could win:

B. Chuck has a much underrated jiu-jitsu game. It's underrated because of the lack of people able to put him on his back, much less keep him there. Since Rampage could be the guy to do it, I also think, by the same token, he could be the first guy submitted by Chuck.(obviously this is a highly subjective point).


D. I think Chuck has better stamina than Rampage. I think he can go the distance with him and outpoint him. The way they match up could equal fireworks, or a boring fight till decision. If it goes to decision, I feel Rampage would come out the loser, due to his more reckless, swing for the fences style.

Chuck wont submit Rampage. When Chuck is on bottom, his goal is stand up. Simple as that.

I think Chuck has worse stamina than Rampage. Ive seen Rampage go to decisions(recently, Lindland, Dong Sik Yoon) and he's still kept the pace up. Liddell i havent seen go to a decision, cause he finishes the fight pretty early.
Dont forget that Chuck has most likely been using pain killers, that shit can play a factor.

[Mako Victim]

A. He's got a brawlers chance. Any brawler has the chance of knocking someone out, no matter how slim that chance.

Chuck's more of the brawler then Rampage... Rampage keeps his arms tucked in and what's for the right time to strike, when Chuck gets the chance he swings his arms like a mad animal, Chucks alot more wild then pageIMO..

B. Chuck has a much underrated jiu-jitsu game. It's underrated because of the lack of people able to put him on his back, much less keep him there. Since Rampage could be the guy to do it, I also think, by the same token, he could be the first guy submitted by Chuck.(obviously this is a highly subjective point).

All of Chucks losses were on the ground, 2/3 of those losed he was on his back... If Rampage got him down I'd say Chuck would just try to stand back up instead of going for a sub

Yeah, his fight with Eastman was impressive IMO. Most noobs think it was a poor performance for Rampage.... Eastman is 5 foot 8, ripped at 205 he is built like a tank and is a legit kickboxer/muay thai guy, as well as an accomplished wrestler.

Exactly, Rampage took his and waited for the right moment... Eastman can be explosive at times so I think he did the right think.