Which one go better with Jujutsu ? Capoeira or Taek Wan Do

[MercilessMing]

I am think of picking up a kicking art for my Jujutsu , so which one should I pick Capoeira or Taekwando ? how different is their kick from one another ?

[Nips]

Couldn't be mooooooore different really. Just out of personaly bias, I'm going to have to say neither and take up Muay Thai or Kyokushin Karate if you want practicality and hard training, but if it has to be one of them... depends on what you want. I love Capoeira as an art form in terms of it's beauty, but I'm doubtfull of it's effectiveness in SD. Practicality wise, TKD has it over Capoeira, coolness and probably general fun wise, Capoeira definately has it.

TKD has your pretty standard set of kicks, roudhouses, cresent kicks, axe kicks etc... Capoeira is a very unique art. Depending on what form you learn, it's closer to a dance form than a martial art, alot of their techniques resemble breakdancing. The bulk of their competition is co-operative "fighting", where a ground of people play some music and the two "fighters" fight it out co-operatively, not making contact (comming damn close) , the music setting the tempo of the fight. It's absolutely beautiful to watch. There are a few full contact Capoeira events, though they are rather rare. Ever play Tekken? You know Eddie, that breakdancing dude who spun on his hands while helicopter kicking you? Yeah, that's a exagerated form of Capoeira. I suggest you Youtube both of them, expecially Capoeira, to get an idea.

Hope I helped

[MercilessMing]

Because I kinda want to focus more on grappling ( JJ ) , and then kicking ( TKD or Capoeira ) and then followby punching and kicking ( JKD )

[aseepish]

Are you training in S'pore? If so, you should consider Kyokushin - I've met some decent fighters from S'porean KK organizations. When I left S'pore in 2003 TKD was in a pretty sorry state. The run-of-the-mill CC classes were pretty pathetic. The national team had the benefit of some top-notch Korean coaches, but I don't think they were available for classes open to the general public.

Who are you training JJ with? JKD?

[cakegirl]

In reality, like in a self-defence situation, neither TKD nor Capoeira are going to help you much.

That said, they will both get you fit, strong and flexible.

But if you're really looking for something to compliment the jujutsu, why not go straight to JKD now?

[Clooneytkd]

i would say do taekwondo if its cheap, most likely i wont be. you should lean more towards kick boxing beacause its cheaper and much more practical. i liked tkd because of its movement the forms were gay but if you moved the right way it really looked like movie material. in all honesty i hate belt systems so i would suggest boxing, kick boxing etc, somewhere where their are bags to hit and lots of sparring.

[SamuraiGuy]

Well are u talking like .... which one will help me be a more rounded fighter, or which one will improve my jiu jitsu.

Capoeira will probably be the best compliment to your jiu jitsu game, on the grappling level. I dont know how effective at standup it would be, but the movements, strength, flexibility, etc.. you would build from doing capoeira would compliment the grappling nicely.

TKD would be better for standing I would imagine as its more realistic and develops some good attributes, but generally attributes for standing, not grappling.

If your just looking for a pure hardcore standup, to win sport fights or mma or whatever, I'd also say go with the boxing, kickboxing, or muay thai.

[dogzilla]

Hum, the guy who said the capoiera is moreo of a dance, yeah it is, but do you know who it got to this? The slaves made it, i aint sure which slaves excatly but they did it cuz they didnt have the abillity to fight whit hands (chains on them) so they made leg fights... just chek up on the net i was pretty suprised how it was developed and stuff... to bad they dont have the sport side of it (competition)

[aseepish]

Capoeira done armed with a straight-razor

But I get the feeling carrying a concealed weapon isn't exactly legal in Singapore.

[lei_kung]

If you are looking for an art to include with your BJJ, the classic is Muay Thai. This is an art that can be very effective when combined with BJJ. Although combat Tae Kwon Do would work as well, although Hapido or classic JDK are also great complements.

Lei Kung

[Nips]

Hum, the guy who said the capoiera is moreo of a dance, yeah it is, but do you know who it got to this? The slaves made it, i aint sure which slaves excatly but they did it cuz they didnt have the abillity to fight whit hands (chains on them) so they made leg fights... just chek up on the net i was pretty suprised how it was developed and stuff... to bad they dont have the sport side of it (competition)

African slaves in Brazil. As I said, they do have full contact competitions (only legs), but most of it is the dancey/co-operative fighting that you mainly see, though not to discredit it, it looks absolutely beautiful.

[Atrocity]

I have to agree with some of the others here. The best things to compliment BJJ are Muay Thai and western boxing, or kick boxing.

[aseepish]

The other issue at hand is what is available in Singapore. Older people in Singapore tend to have a negative view of martial arts - they equate martial artists with gangsterism (and talking to some of the "old-school" practitioners there, there's a lot of validity to that view ). When I was living there, every martial arts instructor had to be registered with the government (I'm not sure if that's still true these days). It's not like in Japan where martial arts/sports are a part of the culture.

On the other hand, all men do some form of mandatory national service there. The vast majority go into the military, and they all learn TKD as their hand-to-hand system. Community centre TKD, karate, and aikido classes are increasingly popular. But it's hard to find "modern" MAs.

[Blue Wave Gym]

some usefull stuff you'll learn in tkd

kicking,punching,open hand strikes, knees elbows, blocking
forget forms the joint locks and rest lol
just work on your strikes alot do bag work with punches and kicks and knees and elbows. Oh wait that sounds like mauy thai lol, guess I know mauy thai now lol.

[Rogue Warrior]

Muay thai, western boxing, and Kyokushin are going to be your best bet for hard striking. If you train in other arts that are so so in striking then why bother. These days training in TMA (traditional martial arts) and this is just to me seems pointless. Ive seen martial artist who have trained for years and years and get their asses handed to them by a street fighter. Now Why did the street fighter win. Because he has nothing to lose. Street fighter hits hard and fights hard because he has been baptized in combat by learning from the hardest school and that is the school of hard knocks. Muay thai and kyokushin are the best for leg kicks. these guys have legs made out of stone. I have trained in muay thai now for 4 years and studied wing chun for 9 before that. Along with that I have trained side by side with my muay thai in BJJ.

Stiking these days is more important than most think. TKD with teach you speed and that boards are fun to hit but no real power. JKD is great for a MMA but as a real fighting art I guess its all up to the practioner.