Human Weapon on History Channel

[Tom Yum]

Hehehehe ... The Krav Maga episode was great. It not only expounded on many of the truths of RBSD already written here by a few of us, but actual instructors from the Mossad talked about trained reaction vs thinking based methods in combat, sport fighting vs RBSD/combatives for real world aggression, and the combat mindset which some here feel is too extreme or unnecessary.

What a resounding echo of what I've been accused of saying too much on this site. What was shown and said in the Krav Maga episode was all very basic. Nothing fancy. Yet that information is woefully absent here on a day to day basis.

That's par for the course at Depends.

Can you expand on the Krav knowledge, seeing as there aren't too many Krav instructors here?

I made a call for TCMA stylists as well and there still hasn't been much of a response.

[Tom Yum]

You want to have your pissing contest fine but I don't say "all wrestlers are homos" so don't say all people who practice combatives are racist.

Thank you.

Now there is a big fire in California why don't you guys go piss on it there is enough here to put it out from what I see.

....'zactly!

[kingoftheforest]

On this forum it seems to be MMA or go away.

I made a call for TCMA stylists as well and there still hasn't been much of a response.

Go back and read some of the old threads in the CMA forums and the crap that people who talked about them had to put up with and your question will be answered as to why nobody wants to TRY and have SERIOUS discussions about TCMA's.

Nobody is going to put up with trying to talk when the special ED children keep disrupting the conversation.

[Tom Yum]

I do Muay Thai and Kyokushin Kaikan. Muay Thai is overrated in my opinion. Yes it is one of the best styles for striking but people make it like it is unbeatable and only way anyone can survive against a Muay Thai guy is if one knows Muay Thai in the standup.

I learned Kyokushin first and Muay Thia later. The main thing was conditioning my shins being able to take punches to the face. I could take hella hits though. The reason is in Kyokoshin we have no gloves. We hit with our bare hands and it is twice as bad. We get kicked in the head. Sure we don't get punched in the face but a nice kick in the face once in a while will teach one how to take hits in the face.

There is no way that MMA guy would have beat a FMA guy in a real fight unless he new how to use the stick just as well or knife. That is what FMA is all about. These guys are the best at weapons and the main style of Dog Brothers is FMA. I also do FMA and got to watch them in action in the Bay Area and it was fun as hell. I don't think I am good enough to take a beating from them though.

Didn't you start kenpo recently?

[jubaji]

I'd like to point out here that I study combatives and have never made a racist remark on this or any other forum so please don't generalize something like that just because the only tie you have to Uke is combatives.

Ok, so you are clearly stating that racism isn't part of the COMBATIVES! curriculum, but just something that pUke decided to add on his own?

Just want to be clear about that.

And you, as a COMBATIVES! person, would then reject and denounce his strange attempts at racism?

[jubaji]

The fact that you would show a generalization like that also shows that your thinking is on the same plane as any racists' here or otherwise and I'd appreciate you not to belittle and art like that just because you don't agree with it's teachings or principles.

Hey, I'm not belittling anything. When the biggest COMBATIVES! cheerleader also expresses views that suggest strongly that he is a racist I want to clarify whether those views are associated with the system he studies or are merely another of his personal failings. As a fellow COMBATIVES! practitioner I would think you might want to correct that behavior and/or distance yourself from him lest he besmirch your system with his racism.

[kingoftheforest]

Clarification and apology to the forum.

Ok, so you are clearly stating that racism isn't part of the COMBATIVES! curriculum, but just something that pUke decided to add on his own?

Just want to be clear about that.

And you, as a COMBATIVES! person, would then reject and denounce his strange attempts at racism?

It's none of my business. What is my business is that at one point in time recently I liked posting on this forum again but somebody can't just let shit die out so they have to keep it going cause it seems to be the only life they have anymore.

I done with this line of thought it is neither good for the forums or for any other type of discussion. I just wanted to make sure that we were clear that someone was mixing his own prejudiced against something I hold dear to myself along with some stupid bullshit.

Thank you and good day as far as this topic is concered I won't be further dragged down into this muddy swamp of crap.

I apologize to this forum for even slipping in the muck slightlyt with my post that this all refers to.

Forum I am truly sorry for that. Please accept my humble apology.

[jubaji]

You want to have your pissing contest fine but I don't say "all wrestlers are homos" so don't say all people who practice combatives are racist.

You make a poor comparison. If I had repeatedly made comments that suggested I was a 'homosexual' you might want to clarify that suspicion and if born out, then make inquiries as to associations based on that finding. pUke has several times made statements that cannot be intrepreted other than as racist in nature, therefore I sought to clarify. If you don't want to be associated with a racist, I applaud you for that, but you ought to take the issue up with him, not me.

[jubaji]

Go back and read some of the old threads in the CMA forums and the crap that people who talked about them had to put up with and your question will be answered as to why nobody wants to TRY and have SERIOUS discussions about TCMA's.

Nobody is going to put up with trying to talk when the special ED children keep disrupting the conversation.

Some of those old threads involved a lot of posturing and outrage by folks who did not want 'discussion,' but merely demanded that everything they said be accepted without question no matter how 'questionable.'

[DickHardman]

Hey, I'm not belittling anything. When the biggest COMBATIVES! cheerleader also expresses views that suggest strongly that he is a racist I want to clarify whether those views are associated with the system he studies or are merely another of his personal failings. As a fellow COMBATIVES! practitioner I would think you might want to correct that behavior and/or distance yourself from him lest he besmirch your system with his racism.

lol @ this monkey........


...be careful, with all the time you spend in front of the comp trolling defend.net you may re-injure your twig neck again.....

[jubaji]

I just wanted to make sure that we were clear that someone was mixing his own prejudiced against something I hold dear to myself along with some stupid bullshit.

Where do you see prejudice against COMBATIVES!?

[jubaji]

lol @ this monkey........


...be careful, with all the time you spend in front of the comp trolling defend.net you may re-injure your twig neck again.....

How's the pot today, Cheech? You and the aliens getting good and stoned?

[kingoftheforest]

Here you go Tom

Here is a little article that quickly covers Krav Maga. It is from an issue of Black Belt magazine.
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Commando Krav Maga is an Israeli fighting art co-founded by Moni Aizik. Commando Krav Maga, aka CKM, focuses on defeating armed attackers. The system was officially born in 1973, when Aizik was asked by the Israeli Defense Forces to revamp their then-current Krav Maga program. Aizik visits Israel regularly to train the Sayeret units and Yamam, updating his system's content based on these units' experiences. Commando Krav Maga is positioned mainly as a military self-defense system but makes modifications for civilian students and has been successfully geared toward that market by promoting avoidance, quick engagement and finishing—thus applying Special Forces principles to civilian street survival. Commando Krav Maga especially promotes quick finishes and disengagements in response to the concept of escalation avoidance, as well as employing the use of continuous surprise attacks. In drills, a student may be surrounded by other students (some armed, some not) who repeatedly attack and give the central student little rest or time to recalibrate. The individual has to react on instinct to both armed and unarmed attacks, including throws, kicks and punches. This exploration of multiple dimensions of conflict interaction serves to unify many styles of training and expertise while highlighting the individual's weaknesses and providing a forum for focused improvement and skill revision.
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There you go Tom.

[Tom Yum]

Where do you see prejudice against COMBATIVES!?

Jubaji, every time a combatives practitioner or non-MMA type guy gets on here you rail 'em. That's what he's talking about.

You used to rail the trolls, the real trolls but now you just rail on some non-MMA dudes and Dick Hardman.

[Shoot]

Krav Maga

I studied with some Krav guys for about a year. I was very impressed with the curriculum and the professionalism of the school. Krav is divided into two main categories: 1. self defense and 2. fighting. My focus was on fighting which was essentially MMA with a preference for staying on your feet or putting the other guy down with a throw. But, we did some of the self defense stuff too as it helped us with our fight training--tons of fun. It's pretty cool to see how you'd fair against a knife or gun or stick or multiple opponents.

I can't say enough good things about this systems--it's simple. The theory is to harbor aggression and obtain your highest level of fitness--aggression (or "proper mindset") and fitness go a long way toward surviving a physical altercation. Add some skills and you greatly increase your likelihood of success, especially when the skills are simple.

We ran all kinds of drills like you saw on the show. We'd train with super loud music for distractions. We'd train from starting on your back, mounted---hammer fists and bucking the guy on top fighting tooth and nail to escape.

If traditional martial arts are a sword, Krav is a battle axe--you just blast, blast, blast--perfection of form takes a second to execution--getting it done.

Glad you all liked the show.