MMA is Not Self Defense!

[Guest]

I will answer your question with a question. How many people have I burried?

Friend,

I'm going to help you out with a bit of advice.

The guys on this forum are good group of guys. Very straight forward, good humoured, passionate, tolerant and there is some great debate on here that I think you will enjoy. What you need to understand, is that we have a real short fuse when it comes to bullshit, especially idiotic and inconsiderate statements like your line of killing people.

There are individuals on here who have seen active combat, war, death, horror and attrition. You pipe up with your line about the ease and simplicity of taking another human being's life, thats going to get you nowhere fast. It shows you as someone who knows nothing, absolutely nothing, about the horror of inflicting lethal force on another person. If you don't know it, and don't understand it, then don't come off like you do. Its a big mistake.

No I don't know how many people you have buried, thats your business, but understand that I and other I know on here have buried loved ones too. That doesn't give us license to talk shit about being a killer, experience of death if anything should promote the opposite attributes.

Stop, engage brain, contribute, listen and hopefully stick around.

[Bjjexpertise@be]

Forgive me for my style of articulating sentances, I am an artist and an author, it comes with the territory. I do have a tendancy to over emphasize and create grandoise explanations of somethings that could be simplified. It's habit.

If that is truly what you do, you might want to improve your spelling and grammar. Also, your idea of ornate rhetoric....well your choice of words for it at least are far too cliche and are too easily slapped together.
Might want to look into that .

[Panpan_goat]

Where as I do not take offense to the things you say I totally disagree because there is no predetermined system that verifies my knowledge about anything. Based on your assumptions, I have no clue what I am talking about. Artist and author means I can spel things how eye want 2. I have killed someone. On top of that, I have seen/taken part in combat heavily throughout my life and it is not something I take lightly.

Speaking from an emotional stand point, killing is not simple. But physically it can be.

The soul almost never leaves the body without a fight. But ensuring that it does leave the body is as simple as a hand gesture. Anyone who wishes to fight me to the death unarmed, might very well learn the hard way.

If you wish me to stick around then try not to insult my intelligence or belittle my own personal tradgedies, because personally I could give two shits about what you think of me. That being said, if all my statements are going to do is create drama then I will leave.

I am sure now there will be posts negating the things I have said yet again and in an attempt to not make enemies I will refrain from reading them.

I do proof read my posts before I post them, read them again, and edit them when I notice mistakes. My keyboard sucks and I am not perfect.
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l0rca:
Pound, Hemingway, Twain, Bukowski, Dillard, Snyder, Ferlinghetti, Faulkner, Burroughs and Vonnegut were all writers and by extension, "artistes", though they never found it habit to flaunt pseudo-intellectualism about.
There is nothing about a real writer that is or should be pretentious. We're a subtle kind, an austere kind. You seem to know what you're talking about when it comes to writing and authorship as much as you know about real world application of martial arts. Please just stop refering to whatever skills or trades you have.

Panpan_Goat:
Eat a root you typical stereotypical, judgemental, by the book, irritating, dipshit. You know nothing of me or what I have been through and any preconcieved notions or conclusions you come to about me are almost cirtainly false/wrong/gay/stupid.

You made a blatant attempt to reduce my worth as an individual and for that I hate you.

None of you know anything about me save for what I tell you, stop pretending you do.

No, I am not mad, I find this highly amusing. It shows me yet again why I am the way I am. You are the ones who dont get it. I can not make you get it. Your minds are made up.

I sever myself completely from your reality, for it's manifestations within my life have brought me nothing but pain and torment.

Take your text book advertisements and commercialized lunch meat and stick them right in you ass. Your church and your schools are anti-sanctuaries. Your petty escapes and mind numbing tretchery is a testament to your lack of free thinking.


This is directed twards everyone and no one:
I am the one you fear that your children will hear. The children you molest behind closed doors and repent about on your death beds. The one who always fell through your grids will be the one to make them all burn. I am not a marionette, you cannot pull my strings.

By now I am sure you all hate me. **** you for being annoying, it has shown me yet again that there is no place for me in society. Enjoy your sucky forum.

You cannot say I did not try to make a possitive contribution.

[l0rca]

Epic fail!

[jubaji]

Killing a human with your own body is incredibly simple.

Haven't read the other replies yet so I'm sure this has been asked by now:

Exactly how many people have you killed "with your own body" so far, Champ?

[jubaji]

Forgive me for my style of articulating sentances, I am an artist and an author, it comes with the territory.

If you are an author, you'd better work on your "sentances."

[jubaji]

Know what? Never mind. This guy is just some overdramatic teenager playing fantasy-time on the computer.


A concerned citizen pointed out this picture of the 'warrior' himself from his website:






STFU kid.

[Guest]

No, I am not mad, I find this highly amusing. It shows me yet again why I am the way I am. You are the ones who dont get it. I can not make you get it. Your minds are made up.

I sever myself completely from your reality, for it's manifestations within my life have brought me nothing but pain and torment.

Take your text book advertisements and commercialized lunch meat and stick them right in you ass. Your church and your schools are anti-sanctuaries. Your petty escapes and mind numbing tretchery is a testament to your lack of free thinking.


This is directed twards everyone and no one:
I am the one you fear that your children will hear. The children you molest behind closed doors and repent about on your death beds. The one who always fell through your grids will be the one to make them all burn. I am not a marionette, you cannot pull my strings.

By now I am sure you all hate me. **** you for being annoying, it has shown me yet again that there is no place for me in society. Enjoy your sucky forum.

You cannot say I did not try to make a possitive contribution.

yes I can, and whats more, I can even spell it.

see ya

[Tant01]

Here we go....

Where as I do not take offense to the things you say I totally disagree because there is no predetermined system that verifies my knowledge about anything. Based on your assumptions, I have no clue what I am talking about. Artist and author means I can spel things how eye want 2. I have killed someone. On top of that, I have seen/taken part in combat heavily throughout my life and it is not something I take lightly.

Speaking from an emotional stand point, killing is not simple. But physically it can be.

The soul almost never leaves the body without a fight. But ensuring that it does leave the body is as simple as a hand gesture. Anyone who wishes to fight me to the death unarmed, might very well learn the hard way.

If you wish me to stick around then try not to insult my intelligence or belittle my own personal tradgedies, because personally I could give two shits about what you think of me. That being said, if all my statements are going to do is create drama then I will leave.

I am sure now there will be posts negating the things I have said yet again and in an attempt to not make enemies I will refrain from reading them.

I do proof read my posts before I post them, read them again, and edit them when I notice mistakes. My keyboard sucks and I am not perfect.
----------------------------------------
l0rca:
Pound, Hemingway, Twain, Bukowski, Dillard, Snyder, Ferlinghetti, Faulkner, Burroughs and Vonnegut were all writers and by extension, "artistes", though they never found it habit to flaunt pseudo-intellectualism about.
There is nothing about a real writer that is or should be pretentious. We're a subtle kind, an austere kind. You seem to know what you're talking about when it comes to writing and authorship as much as you know about real world application of martial arts. Please just stop refering to whatever skills or trades you have.

Panpan_Goat:
Eat a root you typical stereotypical, judgemental, by the book, irritating, dipshit. You know nothing of me or what I have been through and any preconcieved notions or conclusions you come to about me are almost cirtainly false/wrong/gay/stupid.

You made a blatant attempt to reduce my worth as an individual and for that I hate you.

None of you know anything about me save for what I tell you, stop pretending you do.

No, I am not mad, I find this highly amusing. It shows me yet again why I am the way I am. You are the ones who dont get it. I can not make you get it. Your minds are made up.

I sever myself completely from your reality, for it's manifestations within my life have brought me nothing but pain and torment.

Take your text book advertisements and commercialized lunch meat and stick them right in you ass. Your church and your schools are anti-sanctuaries. Your petty escapes and mind numbing tretchery is a testament to your lack of free thinking.


This is directed twards everyone and no one:
I am the one you fear that your children will hear. The children you molest behind closed doors and repent about on your death beds. The one who always fell through your grids will be the one to make them all burn. I am not a marionette, you cannot pull my strings.

By now I am sure you all hate me. **** you for being annoying, it has shown me yet again that there is no place for me in society. Enjoy your sucky forum.

You cannot say I did not try to make a possitive contribution.

................SIGH

[DSA]

Michael wright: I'm still laughing, that was funny!

[Tom Yum]

The soul almost never leaves the body without a fight. But ensuring that it does leave the body is as simple as a hand gesture. Anyone who wishes to fight me to the death unarmed, might very well learn the hard way.

If you wish me to stick around then try not to insult my intelligence or belittle my own personal tradgedies, because personally I could give two shits about what you think of me. That being said, if all my statements are going to do is create drama then I will leave.

I am sure now there will be posts negating the things I have said yet again and in an attempt to not make enemies I will refrain from reading them.

I do proof read my posts before I post them, read them again, and edit them when I notice mistakes. My keyboard sucks and I am not perfect.
----------------------------------------
l0rca:
Pound, Hemingway, Twain, Bukowski, Dillard, Snyder, Ferlinghetti, Faulkner, Burroughs and Vonnegut were all writers and by extension, "artistes", though they never found it habit to flaunt pseudo-intellectualism about.
There is nothing about a real writer that is or should be pretentious. We're a subtle kind, an austere kind. You seem to know what you're talking about when it comes to writing and authorship as much as you know about real world application of martial arts. Please just stop refering to whatever skills or trades you have.

Panpan_Goat:
Eat a root you typical stereotypical, judgemental, by the book, irritating, dipshit. You know nothing of me or what I have been through and any preconcieved notions or conclusions you come to about me are almost cirtainly false/wrong/gay/stupid.

You made a blatant attempt to reduce my worth as an individual and for that I hate you.

None of you know anything about me save for what I tell you, stop pretending you do.

No, I am not mad, I find this highly amusing. It shows me yet again why I am the way I am. You are the ones who dont get it. I can not make you get it. Your minds are made up.

I sever myself completely from your reality, for it's manifestations within my life have brought me nothing but pain and torment.

Take your text book advertisements and commercialized lunch meat and stick them right in you ass. Your church and your schools are anti-sanctuaries. Your petty escapes and mind numbing tretchery is a testament to your lack of free thinking.

This is directed twards everyone and no one:
I am the one you fear that your children will hear. The children you molest behind closed doors and repent about on your death beds. The one who always fell through your grids will be the one to make them all burn. I am not a marionette, you cannot pull my strings.

By now I am sure you all hate me. **** you for being annoying, it has shown me yet again that there is no place for me in society. Enjoy your sucky forum.

You cannot say I did not try to make a possitive contribution.

My friend,

You came on here acting very defensive with folks whom are mostly here to discuss martial arts, combat and other of life's hard topics.

The people here are mostly good people - so I can't understand why you came with this kind of attitude?

I don't hate you; I don't know you.

Relax, take some time to read some of the forum topics and respond to them without the defensiveness -

Hope you enjoy your stay.

[jubaji]

Can I call 'em or can I call 'em?

See post #227

[Red Rum]

Whilst MMA tournaments are usually considered sport (just like boxing is considered a sport), I would feel sorry for the guy who came up against a good MMA practitioner

Obviously it is difficult to put MMA into one category (you get good gyms and bad gyms), but certainly MMA is one of the most physical types of martial arts training out there

Grappling alone takes it out of you, but to do that as well as standup cardiovascular training is hard work

It is like arguing that a boxer is poor in self defence situations. While I would argue (and have done on other threads) that a boxer will find it difficult once the clinch is initiated, he still has the power to knock you out

MMA is similar in that whilst it is mostly promoted in cages etc, it is still designed to make you an efficient all round fighter whether it be in the street or in a ring

[Tant01]

Good call Ju

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A concerned citizen pointed out this picture of the 'warrior' himself from his website:

.............IMAGINE THAT!

LOL

Your reputation keeps GROWING JUBAJI...

[Bjjexpertise@be]

Alas Jubs never ceases to amaze .