Usefulness and implications of a leg takedown?

[Heroic Wolf]

What is the "point"? I'm so confused, sorry

[Tant01]

go play...

Hi everybody,

As of right now, I am reasonably convinced that leg takedowns are a bad idea in a self defense situation ......
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THE POINT is you have an opinion that reflects your lack of understanding...

And it's annoying!

[Tant01]

Can't make up your mind?

.... Basically I said that I am now in favor of leg takedowns .....

Imagine that....

[Heroic Wolf]

Well, I'm less ignorant now, happy everyone?

[Eagleye]

all our new wrestlers in MMA class realize quickly that they have to adjust how to shoot in and when. they have to correct hitting their knees on the floor, shooting with their chin up, shooting from too far away, shooting with hands down, thats just to not get KO'd with striking. the jiu jitsu aspect gets them caught even worse sometimes.

[Bjjexpertise@be]

all our new wrestlers in MMA class realize quickly that they have to adjust how to shoot in and when. they have to correct hitting their knees on the floor, shooting with their chin up, shooting from too far away, shooting with hands down, thats just to not get KO'd with striking. the jiu jitsu aspect gets them caught even worse sometimes.

(For the billionth time) Wrestlers don't HAVE to skip their knees on the floor for a takedown and not all do.
No half decent wrestler will shoot from "too far away."
Any wrestler should have their hands ready when they shoot.

[Eagleye]

(For the billionth time) Wrestlers don't HAVE to skip their knees on the floor for a takedown and not all do.
No half decent wrestler will shoot from "too far away."
Any wrestler should have their hands ready when they shoot.

ofcoarse they dont HAVE to, but they still do alot (at first, but then learn).

They will shoot from far away when theyre getting jabbed in the face.

[Bjjexpertise@be]

ofcoarse they dont HAVE to, but they still do alot (at first, but then learn).

They will shoot from far away when theyre getting jabbed in the face.

Lol you better have some damn good hands if you want to keep a wrestler intimidated and scared from entering shooting distance. I've watched Collegiate D1 level wrestlers spar (not one of those high school wrestlers who do it for a year then quit) with no striking or jiu jitsu experience. Those guys constantly keep the distance between their opponents to a minimum. Hell I've watched them do stuff like cover up and aggressively step into their opponent's space until they can shoot or clinch or do a takedown from just out of opponent's reach to clinch.
These guys are probably one of the toughest kinds of athletes and won't be stopped by jabs from just any schmuck. If you've got heavy hands and a boxer since you were 4, sure you can keep them out of distance with your jab for a while, but keep in mind you've got to either plant and throw in order to get any power or do any sort of damage instead of mere jabs and that's the moment he'll be shooting.

[GQchris]

"Shooting in" leaves them open to a beautiful Muay Thai knee to the face.

[jubaji]

Lol you better have some damn good hands if you want to keep a wrestler intimidated and scared from entering shooting distance. I've watched Collegiate D1 level wrestlers spar (not one of those high school wrestlers who do it for a year then quit) with no striking or jiu jitsu experience. Those guys constantly keep the distance between their opponents to a minimum. Hell I've watched them do stuff like cover up and aggressively step into their opponent's space until they can shoot or clinch or do a takedown from just out of opponent's reach to clinch.
These guys are probably one of the toughest kinds of athletes and won't be stopped by jabs from just any schmuck. If you've got heavy hands and a boxer since you were 4, sure you can keep them out of distance with your jab for a while, but keep in mind you've got to either plant and throw in order to get any power or do any sort of damage instead of mere jabs and that's the moment he'll be shooting.

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Well said.