Which martial art for me?

[Guest]

you must be tough as hell from the way that you talk

Actually, he is, so it might be a good idea to drop the attitude.

If you have a point to make then articulate it with composure and a tolerance for the views of others, because right now you are just coming across as an immature, macho prick.

If you want to stick around and maybe learn something from some very experienced people (namely those you are bitching at) then reign in the bravado and maybe listen to what people are saying. Alternatively, if you want to alienate yourself from the members and ultimately the forum, then just keep it up.

Your loss, I frankly couldn't give two shits.

[Bjjexpertise@be]

just curious, what's your name and what's your tournament record so i can check it out.

If you're gonna be running around asking people for their tournament record then be prepared to present your own and have proof of it.

[jubaji]

Dude, he's probably like the national Thumb Wrestling Champion! You DO NOT want to mess with 'da finga!'

[Marksmarkou]

If I was you I would look at Japanese Ju Jutsu. Its more specific for street self defence where BJJ and Judo are mainly geared towards competition. It teaches strikes, grappling, throws, locks (standing and ground) and defending all of these.

[M7M]

If Wikipedia can figure it out so can YOU!

It is often claimed that BJJ is a development of traditional Japanese jujutsu, and that Maeda was a jujutsuka. However, Maeda never trained in jujutsu. He first trained in sumo as a teenager, and after the interest generated by stories about the success of judo at contests between judo and jujutsu that were occurring at the time, he changed from sumo to judo, becoming a student of Kano's Kodokan judo.^[2] He was promoted to 7th dan in Kodokan judo the day before he died in 1941.
Hélio Gracie himself had already risen to the rank of 6th dan in judo by the time of his fight against Kimura in 1951.<sup>[7]

Yeah... Judo!!!</sup>

i'd rather go by that interview and what Helio Gracie said himself vs. what's on Wikipedia. Wiki is unreliable.

[M7M]

[QUOTE=jubaji;304089]

You seem very proud of your high-falutin' edumacation there boy, but you might need to brush up on your own reading skills.

w/e old timer

[M7M]

Actually, he is, so it might be a good idea to drop the attitude.

If you have a point to make then articulate it with composure and a tolerance for the views of others, because right now you are just coming across as an immature, macho prick.

show me where i presented myself as being macho. otherwise you're just making shit up.

If you want to stick around and maybe learn something from some very experienced people (namely those you are bitching at) then reign in the bravado and maybe listen to what people are saying. Alternatively, if you want to alienate yourself from the members and ultimately the forum, then just keep it up.

learn what? from you and some guy who's response to everything will be...take the pain and/or pull out a knife?

Your loss, I frankly couldn't give two shits.

you're the one responding to me directly. i didn't ask for you to.

[M7M]

Dude, he's probably like the national Thumb Wrestling Champion! You DO NOT want to mess with 'da finga!'

still working on hard at reading comprehension i see. G.E.D.

[M7M]

It does not escape me, I simply reject your premise that your going to get the thumb lock to begin with, and even if you do, it's not going to keep them from beating you long before you get to the wrist lock, or elbow.

see, here's your problem. you don't know what this thumb lock, transitioning into a wrist lock then elbow lock is. it's all done in one motion and w/i about 1 second. the Gracies teaches this, you just don't know about it.

Um, okay, what ever you say, Hmmm my first experience with the gracies was in 1995. So yeah you are right, i've probably never seen a transition from a thumb lock to a wrist lock, to an elbow. Or when I was trained for Pressure Point Control tactics as an instructor, or Joint Manipulation. Or Spontaneous knife defense.


If you don't understand intent or that a move that requires them to do something before it can be initiated is a low priority move there's not much I can do over the internet to educate you.









it's full resistance during sparring all the time. and the opponent knows the technique and that it's coming so that makes it even more difficult than a real situation vs. real badasses such as yourself who are impervious to pain.

Now your being silly. Guess you never saw a gracie fight after having his shoulder or elbow blown out before huh. If pain was so great, Royce would have taken out Kimo in UFC 3 before Kimo trashed him. But that's not what happened.





that must suck. hope you get out of prison soon.



wow. let's try it again. imagine that we're in the real world and not your Jean-Claude Van Dame meets the Incredible Hulk world where the threshold of pain is multiplied by a million.....is it possible for you to realize that it is possible for a RNC to be sunken in and making someone (not you of course, RNC never works on you) pass out?

if you seen plenty of videos of people getting out...then you didn't see a completed RNC. you saw an attempt at a completed RNC.

you must be tough as hell from the way that you talk. you're probably tougher than Tank Abbott who tapped out like a baby from a little ankle lock or Randy Coutoure who quit b/c he got grazed on the eyelid and lost his belt. just curious, what's your name and what's your tournament record so i can check it out.[/QUOTE]

You don't get it do you, this has nothing to do with me. It has everything to do with effectiveness and the probability of a technique doing what you think it will. If you have a knockout capable jab, that is high probability, RNC is a high probability, A cross is a high probability, an Eyegouge is a high probability.

Joint manipulation such as digits and wrists are low probability. Not that they can never happen, but if your game plan relies on you needing to get a thumb lock before you can move on, you have problems.

And if you find someone like me, who only cares about survival and not taking damage, then when you go for the ground, you better hope to god they aren't armed. Because that is the best way I know of to negate ground skills. Just like you can negate stand up to some degree with clinch.

you can train however you want, but if you think sparring is full resistance then you better stay in the ring and not venture out into the world where people don't let you tap, and they don't fight fair.[/QUOTE]

would be nice if you worked the quoting function correctly.

[M7M]

Just for giggles:

I can assure you that you wouldn't get a thumb lock on me, because I simply would be grabbing you. I'd be too busy trying to knock you out. I'd prefer to be striking you than holding you.

yea i know, nothing works on you. i heard you dodged a bullet once or twice too.

[M7M]

And if you would like to talk about education, I can oblige you, I have 2 B.As
and an MBA.

i wasn't talking to you. but everything is about you right?

[jubaji]

i wasn't talking to you. but everything is about you right?

You were talking to me. Right, college boy?

[Guest]

show me where i presented myself as being macho. otherwise you're just making shit up.



learn what? from you and some guy who's response to everything will be...take the pain and/or pull out a knife?



you're the one responding to me directly. i didn't ask for you to.

you know, the other day I was going down on your girlfriend, and I said jeez you got a big pussy...jeez you got a big pussy. She said why did you say that twice? I said - I didn't.

[jubaji]

And if you would like to talk about education, I can oblige you, I have 2 B.As
and an MBA.

That's a coincidence, I have two BAs and an MA. Pretty similar!


I wonder about Grandmaster Thumb Lock there!

[Tom Yum]

you know, the other day I was going down on your girlfriend, and I said jeez you got a big pussy...jeez you got a big pussy. She said why did you say that twice? I said - I didn't.

Dude, thats my line!! LOL