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  • Creating Space

    Someone asked me why one would want to "create space" as I have posted in other threads and discussions.

    I'll try to keep it brief but I doubt that's going to happen...

    Unlike most martial arts that I have studied, Kantan necessitates that the practitioner remain in constant motion away from or towards an opponent. Most arts, Boxing, Jiu Jitsu, Judo, Kenpo etc etc, approach self defense in the same manner as they approach sport competition. They square up and beat the snot out of each other until someone "wins" and someone "loses." Kantan teaches that squaring up is great - in competition. But not so good for self defense.

    We would all like to be the bad ass Bruce Lee type where we come in and kick everyones butt, thereby protecting ourselves by eliminating the competition (Peace Through Superior Firepower). However, it has been my experience that this approach is not always successful.

    If you are big, strong, quick, and have excellent technique then this will probably work most of the time. However, if you are fat, old, slow and not too bright (like me) then you have a little more trouble than the average Joe pulling this off...

    For the first 6-12 months of the training I went through, all I learned was the basic movements to keep people off of me. All the strikes were taught to use very padded parts of the body (sole of the foot, palm of the hand near the outer ridge) and the striking motion took advantage of gross motor controls that I was able to learn really quickly and repeat under duress. These strikes were designed (by traditional martial arts from years passed) and incorporated (by my teacher's teacher's teacher) into a very simple curriculum.

    After a short amount of training I was able to successfully repel a fully padded and determined attacker. Could I kick his butt? No. Could I take him out? Maybe, if he was stupid and I was lucky. Could I keep him off of me long enough for me to escape or at least move to a better position? More often than not, I could.

    How could I do this? By using repelling strikes with gross motor controlled strikes based on my body movements (i.e. all kicks were either below the knee or at my hip level) to either move my antagonist away from me or to move me away from him. Hence we get into "creating space."

    Now why would I want to create space? Well, the safest place in any attack is not to be in the same zip code as the attacker. The second best way to avoid pain and conflict is to talk your way out of a scrape or to have the ability to avoid confrontation altogether. Sometimes this is possible and sometimes it is not.

    Any time someone agrees to enter into conflict is because they either think they have an advantage and can win, or they just don't care. Either way, you don't want to fight another man's fight. You want to fight your own. If you control the spatial relationship between you and your attacker, you have a huge advantage.

    If he is a TKD expert who is seven feet tall, then you don't want to be on the outside within kicking distance. If he is a boxer or JKD guy, you don't want to be in arms length. And if he is huge, strong, or a grappling expert, you don't want to Rassle with him. You want to fight your fight and control the spatial relationship as much as possible.

    I "create space" by using repelling strikes (basic) or closing strikes(advanced) based on what I want to do. Create space to escape, close the space to contain. Once I strike I either move with transportation (to include a full set of ground movement techniques) or into grappling to contain my opponent.

    Most arts I have studied either maintain space and duke it out or eliminate space for the good ol' ground and pound Gracie style...

    We train (Kantan Kyo Jujutsu) to escape and evade as beginners, then to contain and destroy as advanced students, if necessary.

    It's a simple strategy that most people use without realizing, especially if you have trained in martial arts for quite awhile. But we train it as one of the first things you learn to keep it in mind all the time.

    Hope this helps. Please follow up with any questions or comments or downright disagreements as you deem fit...

    SZ
    Last edited by Szczepankiewicz; 01-07-2002, 05:23 PM.

  • #2
    web site? and how about the conditioning you do?

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    • #3
      Our website is posted in my profile. It's not very informative, just an overview. I would be happy to elaborate on anything that catches your eye.

      As far as conditioning, we don't have anything established at the school (yet). It's not built for competition. All of the techniques are taught so anyone can do them whether you're in shape or not. The better shape you're in, of course, the better you perform. Sparring, sparring and more sparring.

      I have my own routines that I use. Weightlifting and ne waza. I am currently using the free weight program that was posted in another thread. I will try to look up the website and post it here. In 5 weeks I will let you know whether it worked well (i.e. whether I was able to complete it or not).

      Because we don't get to spar enough (never enough for me) I branched out into Judo and will try to train with the local fight club (GJJ). However, I am sure they want a boatload of money to do so. So we'll see how it goes.

      New baby and school and work and and and keep me from doing all that I want to do. Enjoy your youthful independence and don't waste it.


      SZ

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      • #4
        That makes sense.

        Where I study we move in quickly, pummel 'em, and move out quick with more attacks - so it's kinda the same idea, with distancing, but more brutal.

        Not being there is definatly a good idea.

        Let me know how the body weight stuff works out - I've been supplementing my weight training with it and my bench has gone up like 30-lbs in like two months. I was really plateauing before.

        Oh, I started eating right too, so that may have had an effect.

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        • #5
          Yeah, eating right makes all the difference. If you like I can mail you a copy of the gain 50 lbs workout. It sounds corny, but I added 35 lbs to my bench in 7 weeks. My training partner added 15, and he has the exomorph body style (long and lean) so it works pretty good.

          I would like to suggest that you don't gain too much weight with your training. it really cuts into your endurance and if you stop training it may come back to bite you in the butt big time.

          The endurance thing is just my observation from people who gained 15-20 lbs after hitting heavy weights. 5 lbs would be ok, but don't go bulking to impress me!

          SZ

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          • #6
            man I would love a copy...

            I would love a copy of that workout.

            My usual fighting weight is 200 lbs., (I'm 6'4") so for me that's just about right. I got a new assignment at work and went up to 215 in about 18 months from sitting on my ass. I need a new workout to drop the weight back to 200.

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            • #7
              I found this article (it's acutally a booklet) in Muscle Media Magazine. I thought it looked hokie at first, but after we did it we noticed some good results.

              Keep in mind it focuses entirely on the bench press. I will find the article and post the jist of it.

              The key is the progressive sets for the bench. One day heavy, the second day light(er). A total of 14 chest exercises.

              I started at 315 which I gained from normal routines. From this reference point you follow the chart for the weights you use. Every 4th or 5th workout has a burnout set whereby you either add or reduce your max by 5 lbs. Most people don't want to reduce, but it's critical and very necessary. I struggled all the way through and had to step it down twice as I recall.

              But I was doing sets (with assitance) that were far heavier than I had ever lifted before. My joints and muscles were screaming. I didn't really think I was making progress. I finally pushed up 330 about 3/4 of the way and thought that was awesome. But the 14th workout came and with a little warmup I launched 350 like it was a foam pillow. I may have been able to push more, but I didn't want to blow my elbow and end it all....


              SZ

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              • #8
                Ya I would love a copy. I'm not interested in body buiding, just increasing my strenght, endurance, etc all that good stuff for the Point.

                I do something like that
                week one 3x3
                2 3x5
                3 5-3-1
                4 10-8-6
                And next week you go up. I only spend three hours a week lifting - b/c its not the most important thing - i think the body weight stuff will make all the difference at the Point - and running. But i do need gains in gross strength - i know i'm only 17 and ectomorph, but still 190 1 rep max is pretty bad. At least i can do more than my weight

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                • #9
                  Ya I would love a copy. I'm not interested in body buiding, just increasing my strenght, endurance, etc all that good stuff for the Point.

                  I do something like that
                  week one 3x3
                  2 3x5
                  3 5-3-1
                  4 10-8-6
                  And next week you go up. I only spend three hours a week lifting - b/c its not the most important thing - i think the body weight stuff will make all the difference at the Point - and running. But i do need gains in gross strength - i know i'm only 17 and ectomorph, but still 190 1 rep max is pretty bad. At least i can do more than my weight
                  I'll send my address via e-mail or something
                  thanks

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