Gang members in marital arts

[likuid]

hey soho

I agree, some places do get carried away with discipline and it becomes an ego tug-of-war. like having to sit a specific way while the drill is demostrated is, in my opinion, a bit much.

HOWEVER,

bowing to your partner is not a silly little ritual. first of all, you said that boxing doesn't have any rituals...are you sure about that????? what is the first thing two boxers do when they are about to get it on...they touch gloves. When you train hard, it is important to pay respect to your partner, not because you are a comformist, but because they put their well-being in your hands so that you can train(among other reasons).

it sounds to me like you haven't trained very hard, or realistically, otherwise you would understand the 'respect', it's not a requirement, it's something you earn and hopefully deserve.

(hmmmm, i can see for miles from the top of this soap box...sorry)

[soho]

O come on people. Of course I touch gloves when I box, and I shake hands when I wrestle. I clasp hands when I Thai Box. These things are a natural part of working out. These are not the types of things I am talking about. Showing your partner respect is always important. Respect comes natural to people who are training together. The rituals I'm talking about are the ones you will sometimes see in traditional arts. I'll give you one example. One of the BJJ places I go is in a Weightlifting gym. There is a Karate Class that uses the space before we do. Recently they had some belt promotions. The people who got new belts had to bend over and be spanked with a stick by everyone in the class. I kid you not.

That’s obviously an extreme example. But even things like calling your instructor Sifu; Master...Can get pretty old after a while. Example That BJJ place in the Gym. The instructor is a Black belt with excellent skills, and we are all on a first name basis with him. Yet the JKD place I train at the instructor wants to be called Sifu.

By the way I like the JKD place I go to in many ways. I just think some of the things they do and ways they train are silly. So I try to stick with the classes that work for me. But that telling people how to sit thing just blew my mind. I’m not in the kids class, no reason to treat the students like they are children.

[crazyjoe380]

Originally posted by likuid
I agree, some places do get carried away with discipline and it becomes an ego tug-of-war. like having to sit a specific way while the drill is demostrated is, in my opinion, a bit much.

HOWEVER,

bowing to your partner is not a silly little ritual. first of all, you said that boxing doesn't have any rituals...are you sure about that????? what is the first thing two boxers do when they are about to get it on...they touch gloves. When you train hard, it is important to pay respect to your partner, not because you are a comformist, but because they put their well-being in your hands so that you can train(among other reasons).

it sounds to me like you haven't trained very hard, or realistically, otherwise you would understand the 'respect', it's not a requirement, it's something you earn and hopefully deserve.

(hmmmm, i can see for miles from the top of this soap box...sorry)

thats sportsmanship dickhead

[likuid]

huh? sportsmanship is a part of respect and discipline...

[crazyjoe380]

Originally posted by likuid
huh? sportsmanship is a part of respect and discipline...

good sportsmanship is respect and disipline..

after a match apponents usually shake hands..or hug..
give each other props

disipline is that you do what you must and not take contact fighting to the heart...(hold grudge)

[likuid]

Dude, you are splitting hairs and missing the point...

[TracyKarate]

Likuid, it is futile to argue with this person. He has, amoung other things, a complete lack of what it takes to be a good martial artist: respect, discipline, open-mindedness, humility, I can go on and on. This is why he is still in the juvenile "tough guy" phase, and until he outgrows this, he will never progress in society, which is a detriment to us all. This is common human psychology and his case is nothing new.

[crazyjoe380]

Tracy Karate said that i have no DISCIPLINE...lol..what is tracy's problem? lol...

tracy is a lame pure and simple

[TracyKarate]

I was merely stating what your own posts have made obvious. Do you think I was wrong? If you do you are living in a dream world.