Wanna Get Serious In Ma, But Not Many To Choose From...

[MinisterofDeath]

I think the Kyu-BJJ combo sounds good. Being a dedicated student, training hard, and having a good instructor will make you a great fighter. Just pick something that makes you happy and go with it. If you train something that someone suggests and yuo dont really like it, you wont be learning much.

As for the mantis kung fu, if its southern style, then its petty damn similar to wing chun, but again, if KF is not your thing then stay away 'cause it will just delay your progress as a fighter.
Anyway good luck bro, and most of all have fun.

[Ice Phoenix]

conach, there was no particular reason I wrote that other than to follow along with what Crash Stitches said!

'Combat Effectiveness' is exactly as it sounds; skills that are successful in 'real-world' fighting, not sports competitions, dojo sparring or demonstrations, etc.

A Kyokushinkai-BJJ cross sounds great! A nice blend of powerful stand-up striking and grappling! If possible though, a few Judo throws thrown into the mix would be useful too, but not vital!

By the way, I thought Gerard Gourdeau was a French Kickboxer? Maybe I'm wrong, it was a long time ago...

[aseepish]

Originally posted by Crash Stitches


I've read many articles where experts in Muay Thai have stated that you can become adept and effective at Muay Thai with 6 months of hard training. I think Vut Kramnark (sp?) said it, but I'm not too sure.

I think 3 months of Thai-style training should make one adept and effective at Muay Thai. But that's training full time, two sessions per day, plenty of cardio. I don't think this is an option for most people.

Kyokushin/BJJ sounds good to me too. It's a shame that your hours conflict with those of the Kali class.

[MinisterofDeath]

yeah, intense muay thai would be fockengrooven.

[Crash Stitches]

no doubt Kyokushinkai will harden your body, getting the crap beat out of you all the time. I'd consider that a good runner-up to kickboxing to crosstraion with BJJ.

BTW, I said I wasn't dissing all Kung Fu, I just began training in San Soo myself, by far the most realistic branch of the Chinese arts. My sifu also is a purple belt under Rigan Machado, and he crosstrains us in BJJ and grappling, making the san soo training even more effective.

[MinisterofDeath]

cool yo

So whats San Soo like? I always here people talking about.

[Crash Stitches]

it's brutal, man. No real wasted motion that I've encountered so far, just decisive techniques that end fights. Plus, my sifu is also a purple belt in BJJ under Rigan Machado, and he incorporates that aspect into training as well.

[H@pkid0ist]

I do Hap Ki Do, Kuk Sool Kwan is very simular. For effectiveness and versatility it is tops. If you could I would cross train it with kali. their empty hand is awsome. Good luck.

[Fighter]

Any good sites on Hap Ki Do? Looking for good techs

[H@pkid0ist]

You can check out , I believe its the Austrailian Hapkido Association, or get on the net and just type in hapkido in several different ways. There is a lot of info out there .

[Middleweight]

Thanks for the threads guys...

Nope. No JKD. If I had the privilege to train JKD here in Caracas, I would be the first one to adopt it. As far as I am concerned, Praying Mantis is the only style practiced here, but not 100% sure of this. What am I after? To be honest, street defence. Definetely.

Boxing ---- and Judo/wrestling. Unless someone is teaching a real self defence class, as in army hand to hand. In 6-7 months you should have learned enough that 9/10 wanna be thugs get confused and hurt if they try you.

Best to know 15 moves really well, than 60 that don't always work.

Boxing gets you used to hitting and being hit. You develop a sense of timing, and savvy because you spar at top speed and don't 'hold back.'

Also good to have knockout power in your fists. 6-7 months will get it done, if you work hard and have a good coach. Re: fists; broken knuckles make it tough to finish the thing. Don't hit the eyebrows. chin/nose/jaw is better

Half the time, if the punk suddenly sees you know what you are doing, and he misses his initial attack, you turn the tables on him, and HE gets uneasy.....because, he realizes 'taking' you isn't going to be as easy as he thought

Check this out with some of the other guys here.

Pay special attention to anyone who was in the Marines, Green Berets, British commandoes, etc. They weren't trained to win tournaments, but to stay alive, as in kill or get killed. That is what the street fight is really about

IMO on the mat, the judo man wins. In the street, the soldier's instincts 'kick in' and HE wins. You get the idea

[Middleweight]

Check post number 17. He makes sense

[Hardball]

Hey Man did you notice that this post is from 2002?

[timmy]

Pay special attention to anyone who was in the Marines, Green Berets, British commandoes, etc. They weren't trained to win tournaments, but to stay alive, as in kill or get killed. That is what the street fight is really about

IMO on the mat, the judo man wins. In the street, the soldier's instincts 'kick in' and HE wins. You get the idea

agreed, but to be trained like marines or green berets you sign up with the corps and work your way towards them. that's ALOT of investment i say.

[timwagnor]

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