Anyone ever tap out their teacher?

[Hookah Smokin Caterpillar]

I'm a white belt and I've been training in BJJ for 3 months so I obviously can't realistically expect to tap my teacher out, and by heel hook of all things. Yesterday while training [we train for 5 minutes with each other, so basically it ends up being training for 45 minutes if there's 9 guys in the class] and when it was my turn to fight Marcelo [my instructor] I told him I had a plan to tap him out. I got his leg but I obviously didn't even come close to tapping him out so he pretzeled up my leg so many times after that showing me how to really put on a leg lock. I don't know what the point of this post was, but anyone ever come close like I did. I would say like I was 20% of the way close to submitting him but thats also because he figured that I'd never try something like that because he hasn't really focused on leg locks. So thats as close as I'm going to get for a while... Anyone know any cheap tactics I can do to catch him off guard

[GinSueDog]

The two places I've trained before I have noticed that the higher belt guys go easy on the white belts and leave openings for them to apply submissions. I think in reality your instructor was just going easy on you so you could better your technique. I find it is easier to pick up and learn techniques if I am not attempting to win as much as I am attempting to work on a technique while rolling.-ED

[Mr. Miyagi]

No way you can tap out a black belt if he's trying his best if you are white or blue. But I rolled with an assistant instructor who was a brown when I was a white and he let me get him into a triangle once, he did make a mistake, but then he could have easily stopped me too. I think you can only tap someone that much higher than you if they are really letting you get stuff on them.
Maybe if he lets you get side control you can try to surprise him with a kneebar, but I doubt it.
Try to surprise a blue belt with some kind of lower body lock and it maybe possible.

[McLeod]

There has been one time when I got Craig to tap. He's a purple.
I caught him in a triangle, but the thing is, he let me get the triangle once I was in position for it. He did make a bad move to let me get in the position, but he could've easily gotten out. Also, he goes easier with some of us blues simply to train one specific move.. when he was going full out, he crushes us.
Also, sometimes there is a mental block in tapping your teacher.

[Ronin]

Last Tuesday night was my third class in three years, and I rolled with my instructor Kyle (purple) for the first time.

He let me get side control (I think), and then let me try to arm-bar him (I know), but I couldn't make him tap because he was defending too well and my technique sucks.

It's going to be a while before I get close to catching him. I may content myself with holding him down in side-mount for as long as I can.

Which I'm sure won't be long.

[bobby_steeles]

i tap my insyructor ALL the time. he puts me in an arm lock, and i tap him so he lets go. he gets me in a choke, i tap him again. do you see the pattern here? heh, heh, poor guy. i bet it must be real embarassing for him to get tapped like that so many times in a row.

[david a]

I tapped out Rickson once at one of his seminars.
I also saw Elvis at my neighbours last night.

[Chad W. Getz]

Originally posted by Hookah Smokin Caterpillar
Anyone know any cheap tactics I can do to catch him off guard

Rubberband a needle to one of your fingers and poke him, to create your openings.

[SanDiegoBJJ]

actually, no b.s., i tapped out my teacher when i was at the lions den. it was tony galindo(the reason i left the den), and i was helping him with his fighter trainingwe rolled around and i ended up getting him in a tight achilles on a sore ankle. he tapped pretty quickly.

[Underdog]

Hey, what's the reason you left the lion's den?

From what I've heard it's one of the best submission schools in the USA!

[Alpha1]

Why would you be concerned with tapping your teacher as a beginner? As a beginner you should be trying to learn. It's different if your an advanced student...then you know what your doing and the teacher can appreciate really training with you. I remember going to a group class with Saulo and his brother Alexandre(Brown Belt world champ). Saulo was going over passing the half guard and had Alexandre on the bottom. Alexandre was obviously going light and letting guys try the new tech's to pass his half guard. This new blue belt in the class has his turn and intead of trying to pass, he tries an ankle lock. This guy is turning bright red and trying to tap Alexandre, who clamly sweeps him over. Saulo didn't say anything but I looked over at him as this guy is trying to do an ankle lock...he had an expression like "what the fu#k is this idiot doing".

[Hookah Smokin Caterpillar]

I think a lot of people must've misunderstood my question. Marcelo goes easy on us obviously or else I doubt any of us could go for more then 10 seconds with him. He gets in position for us to pass his guard or he'll lay on his back while we're standing up and we'll try to pass his legs. Anyway, I just figured a leg lock would catch him so off guard, which it did, but it obviously wasn't going to work. I just think a sneaky attack one time that he would totally not expect would boost my confidence even though I know it wasn't a real win, but I guess I'm going to have to wait quite a few more years before I can think about it again...

[KyleS]

Ronin: 1.5 seconds!

- Kyle

[Ronin]

Kyle:

One of these days man...I'm going to take the kid gloves off.

BTW, I can't make it this weekend. Have a lot of work to do, and feel crappy. I will be there on Tuesday.

[rockinronnie]

I WISH.......

I'm about 160, but at competition time I drop to 145, and my instructor is 280 now (he fluxuates(sp) between 250 & 300), so that in itself makes it almost impossible for me to get the better of him. I'm a white belt as well, and right after we shake hands, he just grabs me and pulls me into his guard. From there he fights more defencevely than offencevely(sp?), but eventually, after I've exhausted all of my options (and after I myself am completely exhausted), he creeps a gi choke or a shoulder lock on me! I call him the "boa" because he does things slowly and methotically. If I was over 200lbs., I may have more of a chance, but right now I look at it as a learning experience.

Ronnie.

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