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  • Originally posted by BoarSpear
    theory?? i have used my skills outside the ring to survive armed assaults, have you used your college wrestling to survive a knife assault?

    Yes I have. But what I want to know is, how many people have you killed with your teeth, or blinded, or caused to explode 2 hours later after the secret death touch?

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    • Originally posted by jubaji
      And those are the words of a bullshit artist trying to sell theory as stone cold fact.
      no your response is of of a deluded sport enthusiest. If you believe im about money, you definately are off mark, and more than a few soldiers might argue that i can in fact teach, and fight.

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      • Originally posted by BoarSpear
        theory?? i have used my skills outside the ring to survive armed assaults, have you used your college wrestling to survive a knife assault?
        Only if they paid him

        ONE MILLION DOLLARS

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        • Originally posted by BoarSpear
          no your response is of of a deluded sport enthusiest. If you believe im about money, you definately are off mark, and more than a few soldiers might argue that i can in fact teach, and fight.

          And you only teach for free, right?

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          • Originally posted by jubaji
            Yes I have. But what I want to know is, how many people have you killed with your teeth, or blinded, or caused to explode 2 hours later after the secret death touch?
            Have you ever seen me be the advocate of biting? or blinding? dont i usually point out thats the excuse of someone trying to cheat a win, because they lack the skill to get it any other way?

            You also have seen me bash the delayed death touch as stupid.
            Why would i want you to die later, If youre attacking me now? Most of the cases of delayed death can be attributed to internal injuries and bleeding that was beyond the scope of medicine in those times...

            I discovered by accident that dim mak existed. I began getting accidental stuns in class with students when playing rough. These were the same places i had always hit but my skills apparently improved around the 25 years of training mark. (meaning i got stuns with much less force so i can deliver even faster strikes) I inquired why no one in the family ever mentioned this skill since they are all skilled fighters. My dad said, "i never stopped hitting them until they stopped moving, so i dont know what youre talking about." I thought "no shit me either!" i later tested these strikes on some soldiers i trained, they worked like a charm so we tried 'em out at work so to speak and they are working just fine.

            Back to your question... yes i have used a flurry of chin jab palm strikes/neck wrenches without regard for an opponents welfare in a real fight. yes my fingers went in his eyes, but that seemed to bother him alot less than the palms slamming into him a split second later. would the first one have made him fall down? i dunno, i didnt stop to admire my handiwork, i kept on hitting until he collapsed.

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            • Originally posted by jubaji
              And you only teach for free, right?
              more than 80% of the time i am teaching free, its always free to active duty military and those who cant afford it. I teach Taiji to the elderly free, when i do charge its for a seminar and supplies we will use. If i dont like ya, i dont teach ya...i have never had a student who has'nt been to my home and vice versa.

              I run 2 camps a year, one on blade for 10 days n the winter. and one on outdoor survival in the Ocala Ntl forest in the spring. Those cost money.

              I am by no means rich, money doesnt make me happy, my arts and my family do, we all train and teach, and we get by.

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              • "everybody was kung fu fightin ......" kung fu? well im all about the man and not his style...i dont think any style is better or worse (except tai chi...worse) i think its the man in the style or the quality , toughness of the fighter that makes a great fighter.....as for if MMA is better? well MMA artists are more complete fighters with striking ablities and groundfighting skills but......as one of the MMA kings Bas Rutten said himself " never go to the ground in a streetfight...NEVER " and yes he's right cuz the guy your armbarring may have buddies who are now bootf#$king your head in and not even the gracies can beat a guy on the ground and take his buddies boots but......in the ring grappling is KING....on the street grapplers are meat ....2 very different worlds and dont get me wrong cage fighters are beyond tough in the ring and out in the street. now as for gung fu ? well its definitely has its pro and cons like the vertical fist which was also a fav of boxing legend Jack Dempsey and bruce lee .... a great way to avoid damage to the fist for a bare knuckle brawl but some of the kung fu stuff ive seen is way out in left field ...again there may be some very tough "individuals" in kung fu but i would say its not the style that makes em tough . some people are just born great fighters with natural instincts and athletic prowess. so kung fu overall loses in the ring i think but maybe a tie in the street.

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                • Originally posted by BoarSpear
                  Have you ever seen me be the advocate of biting? or blinding?
                  Yes, about 13 posts ago.

                  Originally posted by BoarSpear
                  yes i have used a flurry of chin jab palm strikes/neck wrenches in a real fight.

                  Yeah, that's wonderful. How many professional fighters have you incapacitated in this manner?

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                  • Originally posted by BoarSpear
                    more than 80% of the time i am teaching free.


                    I wonder if those 20% know what suckers they're being taken for.

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                    • Originally posted by jubaji
                      Yes, about 13 posts ago.
                      bullshit, i dont rely on or advocate either one, eye gouges are a nice side effect of open hand strikes though and they do land in your eyes often and it will effect everyone except penance because he is superman, and you because youre the Black knight, its only a flesh wound...

                      Originally posted by jubaji
                      Yeah, that's wonderful. How many professional fighters have you incapacitated in this manner?
                      Gee mr sports guy, none, however it worked fine on a meth head with a knife its also worked fairly freakin well for several students of mine in thier fights outside your little padded fantasy land.

                      However i seem to remember Bas rutten using palms to k.o a couple of your precious super-human professional athletes. Does that make it real for you, because a professional athlete can replicate it in a sporting event?

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                      • Originally posted by BoarSpear
                        bullshit, i dont rely on or advocate either one

                        Bullshit is right. You are either a liar or you misrepresented yourself.

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                        • Originally posted by BoarSpear
                          Gee mr sports guy, none

                          That's right. Keep that figure in mind the next time you feel the urge to contribute.

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                          • Originally posted by BoarSpear
                            However i seem to remember Bas rutten using palms to k.o a couple of your precious super-human professional athletes.
                            Ah yes, Bas Rutten who is not in any way a professional athlete himself.

                            I'm looking forward to your finding quotes of me saying that open handed strikes cannot knock someone out.

                            Go ahead. I'll wait.

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                            • Originally posted by jubaji
                              I wonder if those 20% know what suckers they're being taken for.
                              golly gee mr college wrestler, as soon as they get home from overseas, i'll let 'em know how much better off they would be learning college wrestling from jubaji since most of that 20% are private contractors they pay for training. Im sure they will all be quite pleased to have such a worthy seasoned warrior as you to teach them survival when the chips are down.

                              So exactly where do you recomend blade placement to stop a guy from woodpecking you with his knife while he is in your guard?

                              whats the best way to stop someone from wrestling your sidearm away in a struggle? Is the sabre grip better for close range or is reverse grip the way to go? Would you recommend a coma cut with a folder? which grip and direction of the blade do you prefer for razor fighting?

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                              • Originally posted by jubaji
                                Bullshit is right. You are either a liar or you misrepresented yourself.
                                explain yourself, Black knight. where did i EVER say bite, and eyegouge your opponent to death?

                                i asked if being blind or dead would bother you, when you asked if i minded broken fingers...i didnt say i tried to do those things, i said i dont care if they do happen because i fight without regard for my opponents well being.

                                your just name calling and grasping at straws as usual when you get in over your head.

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