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I dont know the details of the San Shou fights etc, I can easily see your point. I dont care, I dont base the value of my martial training on the results of some random venue fighting off somewheres, the value in my martial training can only be determined and judged be me and my teacher............ which was my point when I plugged san shou -> its how you train not what you train. Blanket statements such as "mma is better then kung-fu" make no sense. Define MMA! Define kung-fu! In the end people eventually figure out what they are talking about isent styles or cultures or even names, its training methods, training attitudes, and training goals.
If you are training to fight in a ring or cage, your training methods will and should vary from someone who is merely training for self-defense. Fighting in a ring or cage has to do more with attributes and strategys. Self-defense has very little to do with fighting ability, endurance, speed, or how tight your rear hook is. Street fighting is something very hard to actually train for, its nearly unpredictable. If you are street fighting then your self-defense has already failed horribly.
People who say things like MMA trains more realistically then kung-fu, or MMA will fare better on 'the street' then kung-fu will are again making silly, nonsense statements. Some people train more realistically then others, some schools train more realistically then others, and some people should logically seem to possibly fare better on the street then others, but to break it down to one single category vs one single category is giving much too much credit to one and much too little credit to the other. People train for hours in thier gyms, clubs, kwoons, and dojos, people walk around on 'the street' getting themselves into trouble, people step into the cage and fight each other, styles and things with labels like MMA, do not.
If you are training to fight in a ring or cage, your training methods will and should vary from someone who is merely training for self-defense. Fighting in a ring or cage has to do more with attributes and strategys. Self-defense has very little to do with fighting ability, endurance, speed, or how tight your rear hook is. Street fighting is something very hard to actually train for, its nearly unpredictable. If you are street fighting then your self-defense has already failed horribly.
People who say things like MMA trains more realistically then kung-fu, or MMA will fare better on 'the street' then kung-fu will are again making silly, nonsense statements. Some people train more realistically then others, some schools train more realistically then others, and some people should logically seem to possibly fare better on the street then others, but to break it down to one single category vs one single category is giving much too much credit to one and much too little credit to the other. People train for hours in thier gyms, clubs, kwoons, and dojos, people walk around on 'the street' getting themselves into trouble, people step into the cage and fight each other, styles and things with labels like MMA, do not.
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