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  • Martial Artists Can't Fight - How to put things Right. LESSON 1.

    One of the main underlying concepts behind effective fighting is AWARENESS. You cannot defend against something if you have no idea that it is there. Concepts such as these are ignored by the vasty majority of self defence clubs, and this is one of the reasons why "Martial Artists Can't Fight".

    Try this system to increase your awareness of the world. It is a colour coding system designed by a pistol shooter called Jeff Cooper. All you have to do is remember to "Code Up" whenever you go anywhere. With training it will become habit.

    CODE WHITE - This is the day dream state of mind that most of us are in all day. This is exactly where you do NOT want to be. This is your greatest enemy, allowing muggers and other attackers to get you in their attacking range long before you have a clue what is going on. You must actively seek to start your day in CODE YELLOW. Never, ever, ever be in CODE WHITE.

    CODE YELLOW - Here, you are "switched on". You have made a concious effort to note your surroundings, keeping a 360 degree awareness of what is going on around you. You cultivate knowledge about dangerous areas (staying clear of them) as well as have tactical knowledge of your immediate surroundings. For example, when walking down the street you do not hug the building line. You walk away from it, so that you get distance from and an early view of any doorways, alleys etc. On a strategic level you have knowledge of what fear and adrenalin can do both to you and for you in a fight, so that you are not unpleasantly surprised when they kick in during a confrontation. But you must cultivate the habit of putting yourself in CODE YELLOW to make it become automatic. Without CODE YELLOW you are easy pickings for any untrained moron who fancies kicking your backside. Easy easy meat, so go CODE YELLOW and protect yourself and your loved ones.

    CODE ORANGE - You have percieved a threat, and now go onto evaluate, assess and plan for it. Are those two men looking at you as you approach? Could they be thinking of mounting an attack? Cross the street to see if they follow. If they do, you know the threat is escalating, if not there is nothing lost. CODE ORANGE is vital in planning your response or, even better, planning to avoid the chance of physical confrontation.

    CODE RED - Here we go. Fight or flight. Forget your ego and take the flight option if it is viable. But, if you do need to fight, remember this - Hit First, Hit Fast, Hit Hard, Hit Last. Sounds corny? Maybe it is. But the guy who hits first usually wins. If you have gone from YELLOW to RED there are obviously good reasons to fight. Just make sure you win. If you are going to run, make sure you are prepared to run Olympic times to survive. If you are going to fight, make sure you will keep fighting until the threat is gone, or you are dead. No giving up. If you give up you could well have given up your life.

    Just as there are practical rules about fighting (in CODE RED stage), there are practical rules for CODE YELLOW and CODE ORANGE. But I have never seen any great guide, you just have to pick them up as they go and cultivate your own knowledge. For example, good CODE YELLOW tactics are simple things, like not taking short cuts into dark alleys, sitting near the driver on a bus, sitting with your back to the wall in restaurants, noting where the emergency exits are in a building etc. CODE ORANGE gems could be doing an about turn and running off should someone be slowly following you in a car as you walk down the street, using the reflection in shop windows to assess a threat without them realising that you are looking at them etc.

    BUT NONE OF THIS WORKS UNLESS YOU PUT YOURSELF IN CODE YELLOW IN THE FIRST PLACE.

    Hands up who's martial arts teacher tells them about things like this? Not many, I bet. You must remain thoroughly aware of your surroundings. This is not to imply that you walk round like a nervous wreck. Far from it, awareness is relaxed common sense.

    When the Police taught me their system of driving they had us do something called a "commentary". The were big on awareness, and had you talk out loud about the factors you were taking into account as you proceeded along the road. It got to quite an advanced level, from obvious "There is a car waiting to pull out from our near-side" to "People have their dust bins out for collection, so I expect to see a large Dust Cart Vehicle nearby, possibly with men running in and out of the road". So you can practice this commentary to develop CODE YELLOW when out and about (I mean nside your head... don't whitter away to yourself or everyone will be avoiding YOU, ha ha).

    Phew. Lesson 1. Awareness. This will keep you alive with more certainty than a punch like Mike Tyson's.

    But none of this works unless you are in CODE YELLOW in the first place. BE YOUR OWN BODYGUARD.

  • #2
    Man... it sounds like Geoff Thompson's stuff. I guess you both have same cultural references.

    Anyway, that's a damn good post.

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    • #3
      All of that is good advice for one part I disagree with. It states in code red that if you choose to fight, you have to keep fighting until the threat is gone, or until you are dead. Not to give up. In other words: There is no middle ground.


      I mean, that's kind of dumb. If I for instance made a conscious decision to stand and fight, and I'm winning, then the person's friend or something comes out of a door with a weapon, or I'm starting to get beat down at the beginning, and then there is an opportunity to break away and flee, you think I'm not going to take that? It's better than getting beat down some more or stabbed.....


      It doesn't prove how macho you are to stand and fight once the fight has begun. If your in a war and all your friends are cut down by a machine gun and your not, and you see enemy soldiers running at you & frothing at the mouth like mad hound dogs, you've got to be one stupid sob to continue to make the conscious effort to "I've begun this fight. I need to stay and end it" when you KNOW your going to die or get seriously hurt if you stay.

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      • #4
        You are reading it the wrong way. "Until the threat is gone" means until you can make you're escape. Until then you fight to win. As I said, you always should prefer the "flight" option, but if you couldn't do that before the fight, it is going to be difficult to do it during the fight. But if you beat him down enough to make you're escape (i.e. he hits the flor and rolls around), that is when the threat is gone. I make no reference to being macho, that is the LAST thing I would recommend. Comprende?

        As for Geoff Thompson, yes. Most of the stuff is in his books, and he is right to state his own references when he is using someone else' ideas.

        I'll be posting LESSON 2 in a few days.

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        • #5
          Ya, I understand what your trying to convey in your "Lessons" now that you explained it better. I mean how the code red thing is written originally makes it seem you have to be like some robot from the terminator movies.....


          "Ive been shot in the arm. Must continue to fight. Must fight. Started the fight, must finish it." *walks mindlessely towards the glock aimed at my face*





          Can't wait until Lesson 2. Hopefully I won't find anything to reply towards that points out things you said I misunderstand.


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          • #6
            Funnily enough there is a difference between the Close Quarter Combat H2H method and Geoff Thompson on this very issue.

            CQC guys tend to want you to hit with a barrage of strikes, even going as far as saying NEVER use only one strike. But Geoff Thompson recommends practicing 1 technique as a pre emptive strike, and get it so good that you only need to hit once to get the knockout, or at least buy enough time to run.

            I think, under stress, it is very easy to not hit squarely with your "all or nothing" strike, and some techniques flow so well from one to the other I would like to give him at least three beauties to remember me by....... And then run (in case of frineds round the corner etc.) This way you get much more of a chance of removing him as a threat, yet only increase the time you're there by a second or two.

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            • #7
              Hi Bri Thai.
              Good stuff on awareness, it's the number one key to survival and the ability to avoid, defuse, and initiate (if need be) violence.

              Here is some stuff I'd like to add, but I don't want to steal your spotlight either...

              Violence Cues and How to Spot Them:

              Violent encounters are all different. This is a given. However, many fall under universal types of encroachments, strategies, and psychological aspects. If you know what to look for, you may be better prepared for defense.

              I'll talk about the most common "violent individual" you'll probably meet, and that is the "amateur." The name does NOT imply this person is not skilled, hasn't been in many fights, can't take a hit, etc. It simply means that the tactics he uses are for the most part telegraphic to a person who has learned to read his cues.
              The amateur is someone who is looking for a fight. He's an ego-driven individual who wants to prove to himself or others how tough he is. Usually a person only has to be in the wrong place at the wrong time for the amateur to begin his tactics.

              The amateur will usually try to place you in a position of submission right off the bat, but will do so in more domineering ways. For example, he will ask you a loaded question to test your reaction to him.
              "What the f&%# are you looking at?" he may say, coming up to, and staring you in the eye. This is an intimidation factor that he uses to see how much "fight" you really have in you. The old "stand up to bullies" stuff doesn't always apply here because he WANTS you to react aggressively to him. What he's telling you by getting in your face and cussing you out, is that he's not ready to go physical yet, and he needs you to give him that little extra push.
              He may push you, get nose to nose with you ( a rather foolish tactic) etc. All of it is trying to get you to react. He wants you to push back, cuss back, etc. He wants a reason to go into that first strike mentality.

              This is where de-escalation tactics come in, as well as aggressive encroachment stances, verbal tactics, and pre-emptive strikes.

              Next post....

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              • #8
                The purpose of de-escalation tactics is to bring his anger down, and his ego up a bit. This, accompanied by the correct type of "stance" is key in the ability to defuse the potential fight, or strike first and hard, and with no telegraphing.

                The de-escalation stance you want to adopt is one where you hold your palms up in front of your chest, have your feet at about a 45 degree angle, and your weight evenly distributed, knees slightly bent. The purpose of the stance is not to look like a "stance" at all. You should look diplomatic, not threatening. If your de-escalation stance is seen as threatening, you will most of the time up the fight to the next stage. The physical stage.

                A lot of this information can be seen at Sammy Franco's site, or Richard Dimitris as well. Demi Barbito also does it.

                The reason for the de-escalation stance is that
                1. The hand positions give off a body language of peace and diplomacy while keeping your head and body protected from potential sucker blows, etc.
                2. It gives you the ability to launch a first strike with non-telegraphing, and maximum power
                3. It provides a crucial element of surprise if you decide to launch the first strike.

                Cues to look for in deciding that violence is imminent.

                If the assaulter's face changes color, grows pale, etc.
                If the assaulter begins to stare through you, doesn't respond to anything you say, etc.
                If the assaulter is maneuvering you into a corner, dark area, etc.
                If the assaulter appears non responsive, incoherent, "high", etc.

                There's many other cues, and a great deal of info more, but unfortunately I've got to get going for now
                So I'll be back if you want more.

                Ryu

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                • #9
                  CAN I BE ON CODE RED IF I WEAR BLUE FLAGS?

                  I MIGHT SWING AT MYSELF..


                  OK, GOT YOU.. THAT WAS COO..

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                  • #10
                    Re: Martial Artists Can't Fight - How to put things Right. LESSON 1.

                    Originally posted by Bri Thai
                    One of the main underlying concepts behind effective fighting is AWARENESS. You cannot defend against something if you have no idea that it is there. Concepts such as these are ignored by the vasty majority of self defence clubs, and this is one of the reasons why "Martial Artists Can't Fight".

                    Try this system to increase your awareness of the world. It is a colour coding system designed by a pistol shooter called Jeff Cooper. All you have to do is remember to "Code Up" whenever you go anywhere. With training it will become habit.

                    CODE WHITE - This is the day dream state of mind that most of us are in all day. This is exactly where you do NOT want to be. This is your greatest enemy, allowing muggers and other attackers to get you in their attacking range long before you have a clue what is going on. You must actively seek to start your day in CODE YELLOW. Never, ever, ever be in CODE WHITE.

                    CODE YELLOW - Here, you are "switched on". You have made a concious effort to note your surroundings, keeping a 360 degree awareness of what is going on around you. You cultivate knowledge about dangerous areas (staying clear of them) as well as have tactical knowledge of your immediate surroundings. For example, when walking down the street you do not hug the building line. You walk away from it, so that you get distance from and an early view of any doorways, alleys etc. On a strategic level you have knowledge of what fear and adrenalin can do both to you and for you in a fight, so that you are not unpleasantly surprised when they kick in during a confrontation. But you must cultivate the habit of putting yourself in CODE YELLOW to make it become automatic. Without CODE YELLOW you are easy pickings for any untrained moron who fancies kicking your backside. Easy easy meat, so go CODE YELLOW and protect yourself and your loved ones.

                    CODE ORANGE - You have percieved a threat, and now go onto evaluate, assess and plan for it. Are those two men looking at you as you approach? Could they be thinking of mounting an attack? Cross the street to see if they follow. If they do, you know the threat is escalating, if not there is nothing lost. CODE ORANGE is vital in planning your response or, even better, planning to avoid the chance of physical confrontation.

                    CODE RED - Here we go. Fight or flight. Forget your ego and take the flight option if it is viable. But, if you do need to fight, remember this - Hit First, Hit Fast, Hit Hard, Hit Last. Sounds corny? Maybe it is. But the guy who hits first usually wins. If you have gone from YELLOW to RED there are obviously good reasons to fight. Just make sure you win. If you are going to run, make sure you are prepared to run Olympic times to survive. If you are going to fight, make sure you will keep fighting until the threat is gone, or you are dead. No giving up. If you give up you could well have given up your life.

                    Just as there are practical rules about fighting (in CODE RED stage), there are practical rules for CODE YELLOW and CODE ORANGE. But I have never seen any great guide, you just have to pick them up as they go and cultivate your own knowledge. For example, good CODE YELLOW tactics are simple things, like not taking short cuts into dark alleys, sitting near the driver on a bus, sitting with your back to the wall in restaurants, noting where the emergency exits are in a building etc. CODE ORANGE gems could be doing an about turn and running off should someone be slowly following you in a car as you walk down the street, using the reflection in shop windows to assess a threat without them realising that you are looking at them etc.

                    BUT NONE OF THIS WORKS UNLESS YOU PUT YOURSELF IN CODE YELLOW IN THE FIRST PLACE.

                    Hands up who's martial arts teacher tells them about things like this? Not many, I bet. You must remain thoroughly aware of your surroundings. This is not to imply that you walk round like a nervous wreck. Far from it, awareness is relaxed common sense.

                    When the Police taught me their system of driving they had us do something called a "commentary". The were big on awareness, and had you talk out loud about the factors you were taking into account as you proceeded along the road. It got to quite an advanced level, from obvious "There is a car waiting to pull out from our near-side" to "People have their dust bins out for collection, so I expect to see a large Dust Cart Vehicle nearby, possibly with men running in and out of the road". So you can practice this commentary to develop CODE YELLOW when out and about (I mean nside your head... don't whitter away to yourself or everyone will be avoiding YOU, ha ha).

                    Phew. Lesson 1. Awareness. This will keep you alive with more certainty than a punch like Mike Tyson's.

                    But none of this works unless you are in CODE YELLOW in the first place. BE YOUR OWN BODYGUARD.
                    I have not color coded the train of thought but your post does have some good points.. Not meaning a mind set but .But being more focused to the suroundings does let one know what can or may develop or just let you notice more than before good post

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                    • #11
                      Excellent post, BT! You're right, most martial arts schools don't teach this stuff.

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                      • #12
                        Bri thai, i think you should write a book.

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                        • #13
                          damn that was good...did you get the color scheme idead from the terrorism alert system we have here in the states? j/k...post lesson 2 asap

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                          • #14
                            The adulation....... My public!..... I love you all.......

                            But these ain't my ideas, just things I've managed to find through research. But, keep it coming........

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                            • #15
                              Are you quoting this information? If so, maybe some source references would be in order.

                              Surely you don't love all of us....

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