martial arts for cristians

[Tant01]

Logic???

I am open minded... I am open minded, yet I stay strong in my beliefs... I stay logical and reasonable, therefore I am forced to be open minded. ....

Open to what? Reason and logic? That's a stretch. The trinity is not logical or reasonable. Are you willing to debate the very nature of YOUR god?

I think NOT!

Jesus condemned the Jewish religous leaders of his day because of their tradition they made the word of God invalid... Modern christians are no different...

[Tant01]

Look at the bible....

You look... Where is God's name? Gone! WHY? Because of the tradition of substituting the capital letters for the Divine name....

PS. 83:18 KJV (King James Version)

That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.

[GQchris]

you know...

I respect everyone's beliefs like Tom, sorry you guys got molested by your daddy's or uncles and hence you got a chip on your shoulder towards God. It serves you two bigoted pricks right, dipshits...

I try to be cool with everybody, but guys like Boar and Homoplata are just angry, sad, bitter, pathetic, bigoted, homosexual dipshits...

PHUCK YOU BOTH!!!

[J-Luck]

lol

If you look at what I write and my beliefs... It's obviously logical and reasonable. In fact... the trinity makes a whole lot of sense... I don't see sense in it being the other way around. I see it something like this... besides the scriptural evidence, STRONG evidence lol, besides all that, it all falls into place, the trinity, it explains alot, and keeps everything consistent. People say that's a cop-out, but I call it God being almighty and being able to think in his infinite wisdom past what mere finite minds can comprehend... But yea... ummm, you can't use unfounded opinions to judge someone's mental capabilities ... na im just kiddin

[J-Luck]

ummm... ok?

Lol... Yaweh!!! OH NO!!! I USED IT!!! lol that was a Jewish tradition of reverence. Things changed with Christ... get with the times man! you're about 2,000 years late! ahhh!!! no toga's and sandals! lol

[GQchris]

Like I said, I'm the type of guy who gets along with everybody; but the type of thinking of the two pricks I mentioned is no better than someone who preaches hate like racism... so you put all Christians in the same category, and honestly, sorry that you guys ran into some fundamental catholics or baptists that ended up molesting you two... but don't blame it on all Christians. That's just like me saying that all Black people are criminals, or all Mexicans are lazy or all White people are serial killers...

[J-Luck]

uuummm GQ

GQ... I understand the passion there, and it's great, but I'm not sure painting with a broad brush and profanely insulting people is the way to go. Like I said, I understand the frustration, but just as we dont aknowledge illogical bullshit like that oma plata...whoever lol, they shouldnt aknowledge us when we act like that. Love brother love... remember, Christ prayed for his enemies on the cross, the least we can do is be nice on an internet forum.

[Tant01]

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Jesus condemned the Jewish religous leaders of his day because of their tradition they made the word of God invalid... Modern christians are no different...

Exodus 6:3...KJV... And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name Jehovah was I not known to them...

[GQchris]

Like I said, if the word "Christian" or "God" pisses you off so much, don't participate... it's a free phucking country to worship or not worship whoever we wish...

[J-Luck]

tant??? lol

Tant... I just said it was Jewish tradition... Jesus changed things... I did'nt say the Jews were wrong... in fact God instructed them to do so... Jesus ushered in a new era... where God's name can be spoken... so I'm thinkin we agree here... lol but if we didn't that would have been a good quotation.

[GQchris]

J-Luck; you're a better man than I; I'm just not there when it comes to loving dipshits...

These guys don't understand that men fought and died so we can believe and worship whatever we please...

I have a lot of non-Christian friends, liberals, people of all kinds of different beliefs.. but they're pretty tolerant about other beliefs...

[J-Luck]

Oh no... lol

Oh no... I wish I was a good man... but thanks. Yea, liberalism is about tolerance... so i dont know why they cant stand us other than alot of liberals and conservatives make sweeping generalizations of the others and definitly paint with the broad bursh... so its a vicious cycle of hating the other side, then seeing justification in each others ignorant behavior. Ummm... I think Christans are attacked so much because we follow Christ... the Lord and Savior of all mankind... and that his name has power... Allah is tolerated because he has no power, so is Buddah and whoever else lol. Christ is threatening cause he's real... HOWS DAT SCIENCE FO YALL? lol

[Tom Yum]

This is degrading into a name calling, mud slinging fest and the elections are still 2 years away .

What comes from a man defiles him guys.....yeah, I know I'm guilty of messing with Omaplata and Samuraiguy but I've never directed any crude, lewd insults against them. I've kept my language pretty clean; that's the least I could do to try and keep myself more Christ-like while trying not to defile myself. I ain't perfect, but atleast I make an effort.

When dealing with non-Christians or those struggling with sin, think about the following passage from Luke:


Luke 18:9-14: "And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others: 10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican. 11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. 12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess. 13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner. 14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

The passage is about humility and compassion toward others both non-Christian and sinners.

Boar & Omaplata are athiests and Arieson maybe a neo-liberal Christian, but as Christians we are the light of God that shines on the world so by getting all riled up and calling them names, you're defeating the purpose. I role with their jokes; maybe its my personality, but I guess I've seen them around enough to know that they are people with good intentions and good senses of humor.

"Blessed are the peace keepers,for they shall be exhaulted"

We are to act with diplomacy with others, regardless of their faith.

[J-Luck]

Well Spoken

Very well put Tom. Know when to love, and when to wage war.

[Tom Yum]

Very well put Tom. Know when to love, and when to wage war.

My faith isn't threatened by jokes. I think Boar and Oma are funny most of the time and you don't really have a feel for who these people are or what they do.

Wow, looks like Boar and Oma are becoming some kind of alliance