A good first art

[Thai Bri]

That implies he has the ability to think.

[Szczepankiewicz]

Well, he thinks he can.

And that my friend is all that matters.

[Lost Ronin]

Originally posted by CHOKE UK

So if the guy cross trains, how will you fight him ?

Simple say "I'm a lover not a fighter, fancy a quick shag mate ?"

LOL, that stuff is priceless! Some funny shit man.

[Thai Bri]

No no no. He only thinks he thinks he thinks he thinks he thinks he thinks he thinks he thinks he thinks he thinks he thinks he thinks he thinks he thinks he thinks he thinks he thinks he thinks he thinks he thinks he thinks he thinks he thinks he thinks he thinks he thinks he thinks he thinks he thinks he thinks he thinks he thinks he can.

And nothing he says actually matters.

[CHOKE UK]

Originally posted by Lost Ronin


LOL, that stuff is priceless! Some funny shit man.

Ah, lost Ronin, I can see you are a man of taste !

[DJNunez]

I found a school pretty close to me. I'm going to go during summer and check it out. Just wondering if anybody knows about this guy. Good or bad.

Mike Lee
15928 State rd.
Sunrise, FL. 33326

fight2survive.com

[Lizard]

You are right if you think you are right, that only applies to issues of morality. But if I THINK I can think then obviously I can.

What I meant was: "DON'T START OFF WITH THREE MAS. LIMIT YOURSELF TO A MAXIMUM OF TWO. OR YOU COULD EVEN JUST LEARN ONE."

Wow Bri Thai you used copy and paste to repeat something many times. Some funny shit.

[Lizard]

I've been watching power rangers recently and it's making me want to do trad MA. Come on Bri Thai..... I mean Thai Bri, I know you'll think of something funny to say. This is an opportunity you can't miss.

Fishing for Trolls.

[Szczepankiewicz]

Trolls fishing for trolls and newbies teaching street survival to newbies.

What's next?

Lizard sums up 2500 years of philosophy (specifically ethics and epistemology) in a single martial arts forum post.

Know I realize why ad hominem is so popular.

Argumentum ad Baculum may be a logical fallacy, but it's an historical inevitability.

[Lizard]

I'm not a troll. The term "newbie" is discriminating against people based on the amount of posts they have written, you assume that just because they haven't written any posts means they know nothing of martial arts. And as for epistemology, ad hominem and Argumentum ad Baculum... I don't know what they mean . On a more positive note I had an English exam today and I think writing posts on forums has helped.

[Ha_ari]

Choke,

I'm a KM practitioner, and I certainly wouldn't go so far as to say that an experienced and skilled KM student could not do quite well in a real fight against either a MT practitioner or a BJJ practitioner.

KM is not ashamed to borrow techniques that work from any other fighting art. A good portion of the standup work--elbows, knees, kicks--borrow heavily from MT, and much of the groundwork used in KM borrows from BJJ or from combat submission grappling techniques.

Now, anyone who has significant training in BJJ has an advantage against anyone who does not have significant groundfighting training. That includes someone who only practices KM, which trains groundfighting, but not like BJJ does, of course.

Then again, if the fight remains a stand-up fight, a trained BJJ fighter is at a distinct disadvantage, IMO, to a skilled KM fighter (or MT, for that matter).

To me, all that means is that no one system is complete and integrated. It doesn't mean KM is no good--quite the contrary, IMO. It just means that it should be supplemented, which is completely consistent with the nature and theory of KM.

Nunez,

That's Master Kanarek's school. I have heard that he is unbelieveable. His F.I.G.H.T. system is legendary, though if you train there, you'll train in Haganah, which is kind of a specialized version of KM (he's certified in KM, too, of course). If you have a chance to train there, I would jump at that chance.

[Szczepankiewicz]

Ok, someone ban this clown Ha-ari. His post is intelligent, precise and objective.

He does not belong here among the monkeys...

[CHOKE UK]

Originally posted by Lizard
You are right if you think you are right, that only applies to issues of morality. But if I THINK I can think then obviously I can.

What I meant was: "DON'T START OFF WITH THREE MAS. LIMIT YOURSELF TO A MAXIMUM OF TWO. OR YOU COULD EVEN JUST LEARN ONE."

Wow Bri Thai you used copy and paste to repeat something many times. Some funny shit.

You have to hand it to him,
he's got a point again !!!!!!!!

[CHOKE UK]

Originally posted by Szczepankiewicz
Ok, someone ban this clown Ha-ari. His post is intelligent, precise and objective.

He does not belong here among the monkeys...

Quite right !
Take your intelligent opinions elsewhere !

Ha ari, god your name is awkward to spell I first wrote DAKTARI

Also why learn the ground or stand up game by people who only have it second hand,
when you can get real first hand experience.
Th ground and stand up are very basic, infact the ground work is very feeble from what I have seen in km.

Anyway, you "cleverly" omitted the best bit,
what about the shagging ???????????

[Ha_ari]

I'll do my best to be hysterical, vague, and as biased as I can from here on out, I promise.

Ha'Ari means "the lion" in Hebrew, Choke. Just write Ari if it's difficult to write out.

Respectfully, I don't think that skilled KM instructors only have their techniques "second hand." KM borrows from other disciplines, but that does not mean it is simply an amalgam of other fighting systems. It takes the techniques that work and refines them, adapts them, and integrates them into the KM system.

For example, MT does not incorporate back kicks or side kicks in general, largely b/c they are neither needed nor particularly useful in the ring. But on the street, surrounded by three attackers is a totally different story. Back kicks and side kicks could theoretically do a lot of good in such a situation. So KM uses them.

Also, the groundwork KM utilizes, while based on BJJ and combat grappling techniques, is much less interested in getting an opponent to tap out than it is in making sure if someone attacks you on the street, you're the one who walks away. That's a slightly different focus, IMO, than that obtained by training BJJ to compete in grappling tournaments (no offense intended--just different goals in mind).

I respectfully disagree that the ground and stand up work in KM is very basic. It starts out basic, indeed, but builds quickly from there. And, as I said, I think any KM practitioner would do well to supplement their groundwork with BJJ/combat grappling work. But that doesn't mean that KM techniques are feeble.

In fact, given that KM has actually been used in combat situations for over 50 years, I'd argue that it is decidedly NOT feeble in real-life, practical situations. But that's JMO.

And yes, the shagging bit was humorous.