Style DOES Matter...

[Kingston]

Originally posted by ryanhall
The problem here is there are too many 'inciteful' posts, and not enough 'insightful' ones.

thats a cheap shot

[Szczepankiewicz]

Want to look like a complete idiot?

Yeah Liz. Show me how!!!

[Lizard]

I told you, get Tae bo!

[Toudiyama[NL]]

Or any Martial Art with Cardio in front of it

[Lizard]

You mean to say that "Cardio-yellow bamboo ninja chi snowballdo" was a waste of money?

[CHOKE UK]

Originally posted by Dave3006
Style does matter.

Lets follow this arguement to it's logical conclusion. Hypothetically, lets say my fighting style was a long lost secret art where I only stabbed people with my left thumb. I trained day and night for years. Would I win if I stuck to this style vs. a good boxer.

Would it be the style or the man?

Lovely example !

"style" does not mean the moves you do etc,

A more accurate description, would be the way you train.

So to use the above "rule-of-thumb"

The best thumb fighters would be the ones who practiced most effectively and realistically.

But some people would train and use a system of different coloured thumb nails ! (guess who?)
which would supposedly indicate how good you were meant to be.
However this would not be proved by thumb-combat,
but by a series of finger excercises called thumb-kata !

So in a finger fight the "styles" that have hours of realistic thumb combat would win.
So the ones that have had the "thumb-screws" on,and practiced the correct things in the correct way will be better prepared and victors.
But the pretty coloured nails look the part, but they have spent too long in the nail manicure parlour.
yes their thumbs proved to like their training...... false!
So the "STYLE" IS MORE THAN THE SUM OF IT PARTS........

[ryta1203]

It's nice to see that all you here are so trendy with your little MT and BJJ. Fighting experience is what it's about but I agree to a limit about the tendency for a style eg TKD to have real limitations, however, it's funny cuz some of the old best fighters in the world started out in traditional styles. Joe Lewis, Chuck Norris, and Mike Stone all started in Karate. There is certainly a difference between Sport and non-Sport. Muay Thai guys!? lol. I have seen Muay Thai guys get their ass handed to them by freaking Aikido practitioners. So give the trendy BJJ, MT, JKD bullshit a rest. And besides, any good practitioner/instructor is going to attempt to evolve as a fighter no matter what their fighting style. This means they are constantly revisioning, updating, and correcting things within their respective styles.

BJJ guys get their heads stomped in against more than one opponent. So if you only know BJJ, I suggest beginning to cross train. Otherwise accept the fact that two 15 yr olds can kick your ass.

[Thai Bri]

I've seen a few of your posts, and I've come to the conclusion that you're full of shit.

Joe Lewis, Chuck Norris and Mike Stone were "good fighters" in the days when semi contact champions were considered to be good fighters. Now they're not, so they're not.

You haven't sen Muay Thai boxers being beaten by Aikido people. You're just making that up, dick head.

A BJJ practitioner going to the floor is going to struggle against two opponents. But so is just about anybody, floor or not.

And two 15 year olds can be a handful if they are big and fearless.

You haven't really got a clue what you're talking about, have you, Rita?

[Tom Yum]

Rita's favorite technique

[ryta1203]

It's hard to repsond to nonsense, but I will try. Yes I have seen an Aikido practitioner eat up a MT practitioner. If you don't believe me, I don't care. I wasn't saying they (Joe Lewis, Chuck Norris, Mike Stone) would be nowadays I was just giving an example.

The funny thing to me is that all you MT, BJJ steriod heads think that MT and BJJ are the end all be all, and when someone slightly challenges that all you can bring up his "the ring man, get in the ring chump". Why would I get "in the ring man" with someone who studies an art designed entirely for "the ring man"? I wouldn't. That would be stupid and that is more like you, not me.

If you use BJJ and you fight two people and you take one to the ground, you have a zero percent chance of beating both of them, 15 yr olds or not. Yes BJJ is very good for 1v1, or "tourney" fighting as most of you are very concerned with trophies and other shiny plastic objects.

The last thing is sir, you are just a moron, plain and simple. You are not reading my posts with any sort of unbiased attitude and therefore are skewing everything I am typing, and I don't really care what you think or feel becuase animals like you are of no concern to me.

[Tom Yum]

Much of what you see of BJJ is competitve BJJ; not BJJs entire arsenal of techniques. As a beginner, you are taught at least a dozen different self-defense techniques against strikes, kicks, holds and takedowns. In addition, you get ring time to also grapple and do ground work.

MT/BJJ/boxing are probably the best conditioned martial artists, with some occasional exceptions from individuals in other styles. That works in their favor in a confrontation, but a beating is a beating.

Who do you think will survive in an attempted assualt from an average sized, hardened thug (assuming no guns)?

A professional cruiserweight boxer
A fat, slow 2nd dan black belt in Yellow Bamboo

[ryta1203]

Why does every BB in "Yellow Bamboo" (actually a pretty funny name by the way) have to be fat, old, and overweight? I personally don't believe in Belts or Kata, or kicking inanimate objects, well, I don't really think high kicking is ever very useful, but anyways, how come you trendy ****s get all pissed off when someone begins to question your fighting style? Just a question. No need to insult me, although you can if you want, I don't care if you show your own ignorance to me.

[Thai Bri]

Hey Rita,

I'm not a BJJ man, nor a Thai Boxer. I'm into Combatives. I'm not bias against you. I just think you have a chip on your shoulder.

And no, you haven't seen an Aikido guy beat a Thai Boxer. Don't lie to yourself old chap.

What what?

[Lizard]

"Yes I have seen an Aikido practitioner eat up a MT practitioner"

Holy shit they're canibals! I'm never gonna get into a fight with an aikido guy now!

Sorry. But seriously, ryevita, if you didn't care then you wouldn't be writing these posts. You do care, you just don't want to admit it. I admit that MT has many, many flaws and faults but aikido has a lot more. This supposed Aikido guy who could beat up a Thai boxer, imagine how much better he would have been if he had done a less crappy style.

[RabidMAT12]

How can you say that for certain one guy who knows BJJ will lose a fight to two guys once it hits the floor?
You really dont know a thing about fighting do you?
I remember in one of my extremly rare fights back in school i was fighting three guys who were all one year younger than me (so no real difference in ability) and i got one guy to the ground. I had no martial arts experience but i knew that the other guy was going to do something while i couldnt defend myself so i punched the guy on the ground hard in the eye. Obviosly he couldnt fight any more (yes he cried and yes i feel bad about it).
To quote goatnipples in a street fight there are no rules, the only ring that matters has curbs, all you sissies should get some iron crosses man, im the best.