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Originally posted by RobertG
1)Probably viral or bacterial.
2)The HMO probably doesn't pay for that,
3)Cosmological constants may vary (although then its hard to call them constants is it not?).....quantum mechanics, last I checked, is pretty damn accurate at describing just about every physical process in the universe....But the equations are already accurate.
4)So the force you are describing has no actual affect on anything in the universe. So sure, there is chi. It just doesn't actually manifest in this universe. But then how do you know about it? Hmmmm.....Where is it? You people cannot even answer that. If it exists it can be measured. It will exert a force, it will do something. But it does nothing because it is nothing.....
5)If you people want to keep arguing the absurd, I'll keep going. Its so far removed from sanity that I can't believe anyone actually wants to continue to champion chi.
6)So we had the example with the guy waving his hand over someone's ankle and it got all healed....Why can't you actually heal anyone with a serious disease? See where I'm going? If there was actually chi someone would have actually used it for something.
7)But since no one actually uses chi for anything except to convince people ignorant of the last several thousand years of technological advances that chi exists, well, we can conclude it does not exist.
8)Show me cases where people have used chi to do something. And I mean besides supposedly breaking bricks or having spears poked into them. I want to hear about serious telekenetics here, X-man stuff.
9)So give it up. When you become a superhero then I'll believe you've got the chi power.
1)Probably viral or bacterial.
2)The HMO probably doesn't pay for that,
3)Cosmological constants may vary (although then its hard to call them constants is it not?).....quantum mechanics, last I checked, is pretty damn accurate at describing just about every physical process in the universe....But the equations are already accurate.
4)So the force you are describing has no actual affect on anything in the universe. So sure, there is chi. It just doesn't actually manifest in this universe. But then how do you know about it? Hmmmm.....Where is it? You people cannot even answer that. If it exists it can be measured. It will exert a force, it will do something. But it does nothing because it is nothing.....
5)If you people want to keep arguing the absurd, I'll keep going. Its so far removed from sanity that I can't believe anyone actually wants to continue to champion chi.
6)So we had the example with the guy waving his hand over someone's ankle and it got all healed....Why can't you actually heal anyone with a serious disease? See where I'm going? If there was actually chi someone would have actually used it for something.
7)But since no one actually uses chi for anything except to convince people ignorant of the last several thousand years of technological advances that chi exists, well, we can conclude it does not exist.
8)Show me cases where people have used chi to do something. And I mean besides supposedly breaking bricks or having spears poked into them. I want to hear about serious telekenetics here, X-man stuff.
9)So give it up. When you become a superhero then I'll believe you've got the chi power.
1) sigh, you're really far off. i didn't come here for medical advice, the doctors are fine. they know exactly what's wrong. the problem is there's no proven treatment. please drop it.
2) check my location. no evil empire HMO's here, just public health care. go canada!
3)if the constants are varying, then the equations can't be perfectly accurate. just an example of science not necessarily being perfect....yet.
as for the equations making accurate predictions of velocity, etc. etc. etc., there's still the possibility (though extremely remote) that all of quantum mechanics will turn out to be another Ptolemaic astronomy, which worked in predicting the future positions of stars but was based on total BS. you can never prove anything with science, just disprove. heck, even the disproving can be based on faulty proof.
4) what if chi is not manifesting itself as a physical force, such as gravity. it's difficult to explain my thinking here, but here's an example that should be a universally experienced event.
imagine yourself in a room, minding your own business, perhaps writing a paper on the non-existance of chi. a person who is extremely stressed and angry walks in. you don't see his expression, but as he walks behind you, you can feel his tension. you can't say you have never felt this kind of tension in the air before. now, this is not a physical, measurable force. however, it is real, and you do sense it. why can't chi be like that tension(and who's to say that the tension itself is not negative chi emanating from the person)?
a force, not manifesting itself physically until you react to it. what if someone could perceive(in a more advanced way) and channel something like that and cause reactions in their own and others' bodies, nothing that is unnatural, but possibly could enhance your own natural functions.
5)lol, i think that the word "people" is misused here. aren't i the only one left playing devil's advocate? my allies have all abandoned me.
you could say a lot of the same things about God...no proof, no evidence, no sightings. but i'm fairly sure they'd argue the 'absurd' as well. it's just a matter of faith.
btw, i won't be here for a while. i really just hope that you meet me in the middle(or at least budge, just a little) to say "ok, you have a (weak)hypothesis here, however, i don't personally believe it."
6)well, he never claimed that it was healed, just that he felt no pain. following up on my half-baked theory, if he could manipulate the natural energy to cause the pain to be killed by the brain, and to accelerate healing, then he's not breaking any biological laws. also, as for serious diseases, if the body couldn't cure it by itself, then it wouldn't help anything. however, it could possibly enhance the "fighting ability" of the person by helping along their natural resistance methods.
7) lol, hello, you're arguing on an internet forum. a technological advance made in the last several thousand years. i know a little bit about and believe in the value of science. however, i also believe that there are things that we just will never understand fully.
8) well, i know this is anecdotal evidence once again, but i found it really, really freaky when i was being threatened by a stalker over msn, and as soon as they were gone, the same friend i keep mentioning logged on, and knew that i was upset and angry, she knew who i was talking to, and what they had said that had most upset me. she said that my 'energy' had been bothering her in her sleep, across town. it was, to say the least, weird.
also, she knows i'm thinking something bad, even when i'm looking completely innocent, because my 'energy' starts getting more intense around my groinal area. and yes, i know that groinal is not, in fact, a word.
i'm sure you would experience weird things if you started hanging around with a qi gong practicioner, too. it's these weird things that made me start questioning my own skepticism.
9) if you had ever really read comics as a kid, you would know that only radiation can give you super powers.....like leukemia!
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