TKD = tai kwon don't

[spiderchoke]

Every one is always complaining about the Mcdojos and the ineffectiveness of TKD. I have to say..................................



















I think they are right.

Todays majority of TKD schools is a watered down version of a bastardized version, of an interpreted version of the passed on version, of the not improved upon version of the original. That in its conception was the greatest thing ever at the time. The art, like many arts, was developed for a specific purpose during a specific time.

I would like to see someone adapt it to modern needs and situations.

Any comments? Any information?
Welcome.

"Everyday spent training is one day closer to learning something"
.....Spiderchoke

[MrPoopy]

My brother in law is currently training to be a McDojo instructor. He's already a black belt and for some reason needs more Mcstruction so he can teach. Guess he needs the work since he got fired from Big Lots.

Guess a 20 something year old physically fit guy could be a black belt in TKD. Nothing wrong with that. But when I found out his morbidly obese mother and little sister had also made black belt, well, it hurt his credibility a little bit.

[Acitic]

Re: TKD = tai kwon don't

Originally posted by spiderchoke
Every one is always complaining about the Mcdojos and the ineffectiveness of TKD.

Hey all, I also take TKD have for about 1 year and was wondering if Mcdojos is a school?? need to keep in mind TKD originated from Karate and the only thing that changes it is that it was mixed with a Form of Korean Foot Fighting..... the part about how obesse ppl r getting black belts.... kinda chunky myself, but that doesn't stop me from taking my foot at a taller person than myself........... the fact that they r fat means nothing well it does if your teacher hands out black belts......

I am in Tempest TKD ( www.tempesttaekwondo.com )........ size means nothing or age... if u judge a fighter on the way they appear you can be on your back in a second..... My question is did they earn there belts or not.... my school we go throught estensive black belt training for 1st degree black belt it is a 30 minute test that consites from 2 vs 1 sparring to 2 inch's of wood board break with a punch.........


there is my insite peace all

[Acitic]

Learn How To Spell the Name Before you dis it!

Tae not tai

[lssanjose]

mcdojos or mcdojo is / are chains of a martial arts academy that are merely to enhance the self esteem of a student, giving them false security in their skills. They're basically a cheap place that promise a black belt in a short period of time

[toe-hold]

Re: Re: TKD = tai kwon don't

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Acitic
[B]

.... kinda chunky myself, but that doesn't stop me from taking my foot at a taller person than myself...........

you might be "kinda chunky" but he said MORBIDLY obese. When he says that I dont think of the average person(lots of kinda chunky ppl out there) I think of someone wider than tall.

[xero]

Its the application of the technique that truely matters. I wont fault a TKD guy because as a grappler I dont find getting kicked fun. Heck one of my regular sparring partners has a strong base in TKD amoungst a few other arts and receiving his kicks gives me one hell of a time to get in close. I feel as natural down on the ground as he does standing and fighting but I am having him teach me the finer points of striking. It is all useful. All I have to say is unless you are an active MMA competitor like some of the guys on this board reserve your judgement of other arts since I doubt most of you actively square off against them.

[falcon3624]

I know of a guy in a town about 20min. away from where I live that is overweight and can't kick higher than his waste yet he is a 3rd black in TKD and teaches a school. They suck even worse than your standard TKD school, but regardless I fail to see how someone who can barely kick you in the waste could teach something like TKD.............You figure it out.

[Tom Yum]

I've seen guys like that too!!

The sad thing is that guys like that can't even kick and then go to the UFC as a TKD stylist and end up swinging away. Very sad.

[spiderchoke]

Learn How To Spell the Name Before you dis it!

I really don't even care enough to learn even how to spell it. Besides, how can you be sure that it isn't spelled that way somewhere?

LOL!

I really just wanted to see what kind of reponses I would get with such an obvious bait thread. I can't wait to see what some die hard will say about it.

I do find it a bit interesting that the only response that was even remotely pro-flying side kick art was about my spelling.

I once read an ad in the phone book for a TKD school, that said:

"WE TEACH KIDS TO FLY"................

I am serious. That is what it said.
I was seriously impressed. I mean, a bunch of kids, flying around the room, some of them shooting fireballs and lightening, that sounded kinda cool.
I called and as it turns out, not only did they not teach kids to fly, they were kinda upset about my questions. Not very friendly, huh.


"Everyday spent training is one day closer to learning something."
.....Spiderchoke

[Acitic]

lol wanna know the funny part about the flying side kick.... in my club that is one of the less used kicks... i have used my elbow technies on boards than flying side kicks

[MrPoopy]

The worst thing about Mcdojo TKD is that the belts don't represent skill. They just show that your mommy paid enough for you to get your belt.

In other martial arts (MA's that I don't need to mention), the belt color shows skill and you don't find lax ppl with a high rank.

[BjjMaster]

Originally posted by MrPoopy
The worst thing about Mcdojo TKD is that the belts don't represent skill. They just show that your mommy paid enough for you to get your belt.

In other martial arts (MA's that I don't need to mention), the belt color shows skill and you don't find lax ppl with a high rank.

you take the words out of mi mind. i know a lot of tkd guys who doesn´t know s*ht.

and on my academy right now, our instructor wont promote you until he´s sure you are at the same level than the oders or better.

[Acitic]

i totally agree with that! except in my club the low levels get to spar the high level...... they get a big beating but they level up to black belt sparring fast

[BB Wolf]

I think the problem lies less with TKD than with the McDojos (though, since they are Korean, shouldn't they be McDojangs?).
I started off in TKD when I was 8 and studied for a number of years. My first instructor was an ex-ROK Tiger Division soldier (South Korean SF, who, from what I have read, place a higher degree of emphasis of on MA/H2H than many SF forces). He ran a good school, though it was mired in tradition and the need to get bodies in the door, as well as the limits of the martial art itself. However, he was the best TKD guy I ever saw, and one of the few people I've known that could probably pull of some of the fancy TKD stuff on the streets and get away with it. I went to other schools and saw the increasing sport emphasis of it, as well as things like 12 year old Black Belts, who, frankly weren't that good. I eventually turned to Judo to fill in the gaps I felt that were missing in my MA curriculum, and went on from ther until I found MA's that were right for me. The fact of the matter is, there are problably more TKD dojos out there than any other style, and many of them are McDojos. While I am not a huge fan of TKD, I am less a fan of the McDojo. They are the Starbucks/Walmart of the MA world.