What animal would you most NOT want to fight?

[Pit Dog]

Hmmm ... here's a few that come to mind:

• Definitely a GREAT WHITE in his element. Outlook for survival: nil.
  
  
• A 1600 lb female KODIAK BEAR whose nest of cubs you just disturbed. Outlook for survival: nil.
  
  
• A 29' SALTWATER CROCODILE whose nest of eggs you just unearthed. Outlook for survival: nil.

[Hura]

1. a Roach!!!!

2. SweepEm!!!!

[Masala]

SHitsu,
you must not be familiar with black mambas. They can move fast.

http://www.nwf.org/nwf/intlwild/mamba.html

I have a friend who lived in Africa for a few years. He told me about his black mamba experience. He was driving along in his jeep, when all of the sudden he saw a snake in the road right infront of him, and then WHAMO, the driver side window
shattered. His car went skidding to the side of the road, he looked over and smashed and stuck in the window with his jaw completely split, was a black mamba (his fangs were actually IN the glass). Apparently, as he ran over the snake, it's reaction was so fast and powerfull that it doubled back and smashed his window. If his window had been rolled down or any less sturdy, he would have been a dead man.

Frickin amazing

[Mr. Miyagi]

It's definitely true that black mambas are the fastest snake at 12-15 mph but that was a wonderful piece of fiction Masala.
Brian, what about a hungry tiger or leopard?

[Zhoozhitsu]

Masala, you just proved what I said earlier. That snake was provoked when your friend drove over it w/ his car. You really think a black mamba will go chasing after a human from a distance?

Once again, the most dangerous animals are the ones who attack unprovoked.

Pit, people are known to have survived crocodile and shark attacks.

If you're faced w/ a hungry lion in the wild, I guarantee you won't see the next sunrise.

The same probably holds true for a 1,600 lb. bear.

[Pit Dog]

But Zhoo:

There is a difference between surviving "a crocodile attack" ... and suviving one from a TWENTY-NINE FOOT SALTWATER CROCODILE whose nest you unearthed

Lions? I'd be much more worried about a Siberian Tiger ...

[duchman]

feta fish!

[hounddog]

how about a pissed off Elephant or Gorilla?

Personally, I'd rather face a lion than a 29 ft. saltwater croc or a great white. When you're in the water you got to deal with the animal and the aspect of drowning.

[Mickey Finn]

Originally posted by Zhoozhitsu
If you're faced w/ a hungry lion in the wild, I guarantee you won't see the next sunrise.

Lion attacks can be survived:

“Thirty-year-old security guard Joao Chauque says he is still not afraid of lions after a lioness attacked him and broke his left hand in its powerful jaws last week, African Eye News Service reports.
But Chauque said on the weekend that he was never going to walk in the bush at night again. Chauque, a security guard at Marloth Park, an upmarket town set in a game reserve bordering the Kruger National Park, was attacked as he set off to a friend’s house after work at about 7.30pm last week Tuesday. Close by the house he guarded he came across a herd of zebra that scattered, and a moment later a lioness grabbed his hand. "I could feel the bones cracking," he said from the surgical ward at Shongwe hospital where his wounds were stitched and his forearm was put into plaster of Paris.
"The lioness and I were staring at each other, our faces were a few inches away from each other." He did not panic, but ripped off the remains of a blue shirt he wore, and threw it to the ground. The lioness leapt onto the shirt and savaged it while Chauque backed away and escaped. He raised the alarm and officials living at Marloth Park took him to hospital. Chauque is a Mozambican who came to South Africa legally in 1987 and has worked at Marloth Park for more than six years. He says he’s used to the lions and they don’t frighten him, but he wishes the town council would chase them away. He lives on a nearby tribal trust land and says if he finishes work late in future he is going to arrange to sleep somewhere safe until morning.
Marloth Park allows no fences round the 940 houses on the 3 000 hectare property and town clerk, Andre Lubbe, insists nature rules, not human beings. For that reason he is not going to hunt down the lioness that attacked Chauque. The attack was the fifth in as many months at Marloth Park. Last month, builder Thomas Hlatswayo, 22, fought off three lions by swinging a bundle of firewood tied with rope at them. You have to be retired or medically unfit to live at Marloth Park permanently, so only about 150 people, including officials stay there. There are more than 900 houses, but almost all of them are for holidays only. Because the town is open to wild animals, security guards are urged not to walk or cycle after”

Some recent shark attacks:

“First to go was Cameron Bayes, a 25-year-old New Zealander on honeymoon near Ceduna, South Australia. On the morning of September 25, Bayes went for an early surf alone in conditions later described by locals as "eerie" -- overcast, glassy and around 5 feet. Sometime between 7:30 a.m. and 8 a.m., while his wife dozed in their campsite, he was hit by a big white and mauled for several minutes. Despite a search, only surfboard fragments were recovered.

A little less than two days later and 200 miles away, near the tuna-fishing town of Port Lincoln, 17-year-old local Jevon Wright was finishing a lunchtime surf with some friends when he was attacked in similar fashion. His buddies were unable to stop the shark from dragging Jevon away. Once again, no body was recovered.

The suddenness of the attacks and their dramatic proximity came as a shock to the blase Australian beachgoing community. Scientific evidence has pointed to a steady decline in great white numbers off southern Australia, leading to their protection under endangered species legislation. Yet for some time, marine biologists and local tuna fishermen have been warning of overfishing of bluefin tuna in the whites' offshore feeding grounds. Were hungry sharks prowling closer inshore, looking for new protein sources?

Then just four days ago, just as the attacks were fading into memory, a third killing sent new shock waves rocketing around the coastline.

This time the beach was Cottesloe, in Perth, West Australia, and the victim was 49-year-old swimmer Ken Crew. He had just finished a regular morning swim with a group of friends when a white between 13 and 15 feet in length crash-tackled him, removing a leg. Crew was rescued but died later of blood loss, while one of his swimming buddies, Perth lawyer Dirk Avery, was injured fending off the shark.”


Maybe its because I am actually exposed to it, but I have to go with the Great White. It can take a little test bite and wipe you out. Years ago there was a fatal attack up at Spanish Bay. A friend of mine was a newbie on the local fire dept. and a surfer. The got the call to go retrieve the body of a surfer in Spanish Bay. They got there and they see the body floating outside the surf line. My buddy was elected to go retrieve it. The shark had taken one bite. The one bite had removed most of the torso. He was gone from tits to hips. The only thing holding his legs to what was left of him was a bit of his wetsuit. There was a corresponding semi circular chunk of surfboard missing from the center of the board. It was nothing more than a taste test, a little nip. He didn’t like the taste, (wetsuit rubber?) and spit him out dead as a doornail.

[assface]

Pitdog, you response is similiar to mine.

yea, a great white could mess you up pretty bad

I think a polar bear would be a more fearsome foe. With a polar bear you won't have to mess around with any of it's cubs. He'd attack just because he is hungry. I believe he's the only animal that would knowingly attack a human.

For the croc, I've seen enough Steve Erwin shows to know that once they leave the water they like kittens. Well maybe not, but it'd be much worse if you decided to crush her eggs and take a swim.

Let me tell you about this one animal I encountered. At my house there are window wells, big pits by the basement windows about four feet deep. Often animals can get caught in them and not be able to escape. So I can either ignore their scratching on the window or rescue them. Once there was a baby robin in one and was making quite a bit of noise. So I put on some gloves, hopped down, and let him out. Right when my head can up I heard this horrible screeching then I heard something fly over my head. The mother robin, I'm assuming, looked pretty pissed off, even though I saved it's child. It landed and started hopping towards me, screeching all the while.

So what do I do? I run like a little girl. Sure, it was embarrasing, but robins are pretty scarry.

So I guess the animal I would most NOT want to fight is a robin. They're deadly I tell you! Those beaks are sharp, and those teeth!!

[Edited by assface on 11-15-2000 at 01:58 PM]

[Masala]

Not fiction Miyagi


Shitsu,
What you said was this:

"Snakes: Anyone can outrun a snake. Not so much 'cause snakes are slow, but they're too stupid to come chasing after you."

First, they DO come chasing after you if you have pissed them off.

Second, the nature of this thread is "Which animal would you least like to face" not "Which animal would you least like to be running from."

[yusul]

wouldn't face an angry elephant in hand to hand. what the hell are you going to do to an elephant?

[Rabbit]

Originally posted by duchman
rabbit

Damn, right.

[Zhoozhitsu]

Goddang it Pit. Look how many conditions have to be met before your saltwater croc becomes deadlier than my lion.

And the same goes for a snake. Would you rather be face w/ a hungry snake or a hungry lion? Case closed.

Mickey, my point is still valid. When did I use the word "lioness"? Had that been a lion, our little friend Chauque, a security guard at Marloth Park, wouldn't have lived to tell that story.

By the way Pit, you're right about a Siberian Tiger. And leopards, cheetahs etc. But a f*ckin' lion is still the biggest terror in my books. They don't call him king of the jungle for no reason.

Now, does anyone know if a lion can win a fight against a 1,600lb. bear?

[Ryu (non-working password]

An animal that doesn't look strong, but is 7 times stronger than a human I've heard is a chimpanzee....
is this true? Anyone know?

I've also heard bigger baboons are deadly.

Ryu