Has MA made me violent?

[Lizard]

Teenagers tend to think wioth the emotional part of their brain. Adults use the logical part more.

It will be so annoying when I mature and can't have fun anymore. I'll be like huey.

[Andrew WA]

Linkin PArk huh? You ARE just a kid!

Your heroes in Linkin Park are anti drugs you should follow the same way.

The fact you got into such a situation with those people shows how immature you are.

Since Laws are for losers then how about I come over and break your fence and pee on your plant pots and then preceed to kick your ass and then walk off after vandelizing the rest of your property and steeling your money? Would that make me a winner then? Cause dude laws are for losers.

I hope you quit martial arts. You give martial arts a bad name.

[Lizard]

I you kicked my ass that badly you would be a winner cos Id be too beaten to call u a loser. Now you understand. I like linkin parks music but their personalities probably suck big time. Worse than yours.

Suck big time?
Kick ass?
Loser?

Now Im sounding like an american. Cool

[Lizard]

I you really think Im so immature then why stoop to my level of childish insults? dont you have like jobs or families or something? I just want to discuss whether or not martial arts can make someone more likely to be violent. Come on man, I dont dislike you, why cant we be friendly about all this?

[Sean Dempsey]

I just want to discuss whether or not martial arts can make someone more likely to be violent

Final answer:

No, it won't make you MORE violent, just more dangerous and effective with your innate violence level.

"Martial Arts" don't hurt people, people hurt people. I know it's a cliche, but it's true.

I know MANY BJJ purple and brown belts that would *never* accost someone, joking or real. And BJJ black belts? please, that'd be like a Cop showing up at a party in his uniform and using arrest control as a "joke" and firing his gun off into the air while on duty.

[IPON]

Lizard - I agree with Sean. People that study martial arts and do not have a foundation of disapline (before or after starting MA) can go down the path of overconfidence, cockiness, ego showboating, etc. whatever you want to call it. So even if you quit MA you still have knowlege of strikes and kicks and what may be "nat hard strikes" to you maybe to someone else. Simply striking someone is assualt (amount of force only makes the charge worse) just something to think about.

It sounds like this has been agoninzing for you and if you are thinking about it that seriously you have to be honest with your self and take responsibility for your choices.

I am not preaching its just you have to remember just becasue you can do something doesn't mean you should.

Or in the words of our favorite web-slinger: "with great power comes great responsibility"

I hope that helps.

[NuffSpeed]

Originally posted by Lizard
I you really think Im so immature then why stoop to my level of childish insults? dont you have like jobs or families or something? I just want to discuss whether or not martial arts can make someone more likely to be violent. Come on man, I dont dislike you, why cant we be friendly about all this?

Sounds to me like your a lil insecure, hence the need to prove yourself. I come from a different background then most that posted, and if anything, combative arts has made me less violent.

[ncassidy]

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[Lizard]

A lot of you are talking about discipline. I wasn't really taught any of that in Muay Thai.

Well most of you seem to agree that martial arts doesn't make someone violent but they can make a violent person more dangerous. I thank those of you who tried to answer my question, to those of you who tried to insult me I am slightly less grateful.

[Thai Bri]

Fluck Off you little toss bag.

[MuayThaiFighter]

Originally posted by Lizard
A lot of you are talking about discipline. I wasn't really taught any of that in Muay Thai.

Well most of you seem to agree that martial arts doesn't make someone violent but they can make a violent person more dangerous. I thank those of you who tried to answer my question, to those of you who tried to insult me I am slightly less grateful.

Since when do MuayThai schools not teach you discipline,as far as I know all schools regardless of style teach discipline.Obviously you didn't go to a very good martial arts school.

"Well most of you seem to agree that martial arts doesn't make someone violent but they can make a violent person more dangerous."

True enough,especially if they drink alot of alcohol on top of that.

[bbbb]

!!!!!!!!

Black and White do not mix.

You'll get a reputation, sooner than you think.

[bbbb]

........

"It's not getting beaten up , but rather you beating up other people, that disturb's the mind."

[bbbb]

If ...

you can't learn respect in the dojo/gym/kwoon/... then you must be blind.

There's people everywhere who'll kick your ass....

[Penance]

You've already looked back on your behavior and felt regret. If you think it's bad now, imagine what it will be like when you're 20, 23, 30 and look back at the things you've done and regret them. Live life to the fullest, but live a life you can be PROUD of.

I agree, some laws are stupid. They are stupid because they are usually in place to stop certain types of people from doing certains types of things. For everyone else, those laws suck even though they (usually) don't realize they themselves are being protected from other people by them.

For instance, SOME 17 year olds can handle drinking responsibly. These are the people you never hear about, because nothing bad happens. MOST 17 year olds (and most 20, 30, and 40 year olds) cannot drink responsibly...and then they get drunk, drive, and KILL people. That is why it is illegal to drink until you're 21 (in the U.S.). In this case, you yourself are telling us about bad things that have happened. You say laws are for losers, but what is your definition of a loser? In my eyes, a loser is someone with no self control and no direction in life who accomplishes nothing of true value.

If you are getting drunk and using your martial arts when it's inappropriate, then that is a sign that you are trying to compensate. You're trying to make yourself feel better about you by trying to impress other people or dominate them with your martial arts abilities. That is wrong.

Let me give you one piece of advice: that kind of behavior is a slippery slope. I know it sounds like a PSA, but I have personally seen it happen to at least 5 friends. These kinds of things are insideous. They creep up on your slowly and gradually, so much so that you will not realize how bad things have become until it is too late. Things start off fine, then time passes, something bad happens (small), time passes, more bad things happen, less and less time passes between incidents, but they have become so commonplace they don't bother you anymore. One day you wake up and (maybe) realize how bad things are, but more than likely someone else does the realizing and are powerless to do anything about it because it's already too late.

Think I'm joking? I have a friend in jail for manslaughter (8 years), another friend who went to prison for armed robbery (needed money for crack) and had a kid when he was 17. I know people who have lived in basements strung out on heroin. Alcoholics. People that really had alot of talent (music, art, skateboarding, etc) and could have done alot...but when I see them from time to time now, I see they are doing NOTHING with their lives. And I remember sitting around with them listening to music "just" drinking 40's and even I thought "this is nothing, we're ok, my mom's an idiot, those teachers are f'ing retarded, all that sh*t doesn't apply." Wrong.