Would Bruce Lee win UFC fights had he been still alive and willing to compete?

[m.artist]

see????? as i told you there who won't believe me yet.....

all of Bruce Lee moves, attacks and defenses are all found in KungFu, i know it cause that is also the way we spar........

you could not tell whether what kind of KungFu Category we learned cause it is a combinations of all Good kungfu moves, and throw away the remaining stupid moves of KungFu........ and improvising each to match and compatible to the practitioner's body structure and fighting talents......

do you enjoy being stupid?

no, no and no
that is NOT it.
if he where to get rid of all the stupid kung fu moves, then he wouldn't have any kung fu now would he
but guess what?
that's what he did
he stripped the non-essential (which was a good 99% of kung fu that he knew) and used what was effective, along with grappling and other arts (that where NOT KUNG FU) guess what else?
he was impressed with a good kicking artist and trained a little bit with him. Guess what art that man did? It was Tae Kwon Do!
Not kung fu
get over yourself already
get over your art
it's not the best, nor ever was
i could take you and you're "kung fu"

[Tom Yum]

see????? as i told you there who won't believe me yet.....

all of Bruce Lee moves, attacks and defenses are all found in KungFu, i know it cause that is also the way we spar........

you could not tell whether what kind of KungFu Category we learned cause it is a combinations of all Good kungfu moves, and throw away the remaining stupid moves of KungFu........ and improvising each to match and compatible to the practitioner's body structure and fighting talents......

Fortune cookie says: "Tom Yum send bad chi in your direction"

now share that noodle recipe!!!

[DrAgOn-T]

do you enjoy being stupid?

no, no and no
that is NOT it.
if he where to get rid of all the stupid kung fu moves, then he wouldn't have any kung fu now would he
but guess what?
that's what he did
he stripped the non-essential (which was a good 99% of kung fu that he knew) and used what was effective, along with grappling and other arts (that where NOT KUNG FU) guess what else?
he was impressed with a good kicking artist and trained a little bit with him. Guess what art that man did? It was Tae Kwon Do!
Not kung fu
get over yourself already
get over your art
it's not the best, nor ever was
i could take you and you're "kung fu"

he took his kicks from TKD, wow, I always thought it was the absolute most useless P.O.S. ever, but I guess it's like anything else in MA, depends on who you train with.

[m.artist]

ya. the tkd guys name was byong yu

him and bruce had an ecounter when bruce was still doing mainly wing chun.
byong was doing a seminar and afterwards him and bruce talked. the tkd guy showed some kicks to bruce, and at the time his kicks weren't all that great.
but being the man he was, you could show bruce a technique one time and he could come back 5 min later and do it better then you did.
bruce came back after watching the man kick a few weeks later. bruce's kick and kicking power had increased incredibly.
so..ya
there ya go
no kung fu there lol

[sherwinc]

ya. the tkd guys name was byong yu

him and bruce had an ecounter when bruce was still doing mainly wing chun.
byong was doing a seminar and afterwards him and bruce talked. the tkd guy showed some kicks to bruce, and at the time his kicks weren't all that great.
but being the man he was, you could show bruce a technique one time and he could come back 5 min later and do it better then you did.
bruce came back after watching the man kick a few weeks later. bruce's kick and kicking power had increased incredibly.
so..ya
there ya go
no kung fu there lol

all of Bruce Lee's Hand / Feet attacks we have also that......

but if you still insist that Bruce Lee's Art is Tae Kwon Do..... then i can simple say that my art is Tae Kwon Do too and it is not kungfu......

and by that, i can simply say that no one beats Tae Kwon Do..........

HAW HAW HAW HAW........

Note:
all of bruce lee moves, we have that also in kungfu, a thing that we dont have in bruce lee's moves is the art of Jumping/hopping unto the opponent.... cause it is very exhausted........

[m.artist]

bruce lee's art was jeet kune do. nothing more. nothing less
he trained with many different martial arts inclding kung fu, so get different aspects of realistic fighting. he trained with ed parker, he trained with byong yu, he trained with many greats to get their perspective on the fighting arts. he also trained with many people to learn how to fight. not neccessarily their style, but to learn the mechanics and the principles, the "concepts" behind the technique. bruce was a thinker. he wouldn't stop untill he had a question answered. and his answer to practical martial arts were the concepts of jeet kune do
get it right
his artwas not tkd, not kung fu
he didn't have an art
he had a way of thinking.
and that was jkd

[mfern31]

That was very well put I agree 100% M . artist. However the question of Bruce being in a UFC and doing well is difficult to answer because there is no proof of any of his combative confrontations, I need a little more than "He said" or So and SO said. We need real proof of his ability in order to anwer that question dont you think?

[Tom Yum]

This thread should be tied to a 50 foot mideval catapult and be launched far into the air...

[IPON]

This thread should be tied to a 50 foot mideval catapult and be launched far into the air...

and into the ocean

[MuayThaiFighter]

my thoughts exactly lol....thank u my friend.....without bruce lee....there would be no martial arts here in america.....there just wouldn't.....

That's aload of crap,if he hadn't brought martial arts to America someone else eventually would have.Besides if I'm correct martial arts was around in America way before his time.

[MuayThaiFighter]

I would put mponey on bruce lee.....im sure a lot of those fighters today use creatine or steroids and shit liek that...bruce lee=all natural beast

Actually you're wrong from what I read not too long ago although hardly ever mentioned Bruce Lee did do steroids,he didn't do it to get huge as most body builders do,he did it to get fast as certain steroids with proper weight training can make you faster.

To get huge with steroids you have to lift heavy weight Bruce Lee did light weights while on steroids to get his speed up.

So Bruce Lee was not all natural like you think.


Now as far as creatine is concerned,you may be able to put some muscle on but you'll never get huge with it,the results are completely different from those of steroids.

Another thing steroids and creatine do not improve skill they can make you stronger and faster depending on your weight training but won't necessarily make you a better fighter and that's exactly why he took steroids.Most athletes back then did.

[MuayThaiFighter]

These Bruce Lee threads get so old...

I doubt Bruce Lee would be able to compete in MMA competition. In my opinion a thai kick would snap his leg is half.

-papa-

I agree 100%

[MuayThaiFighter]

For anyone who says JKD is not a martial arts but a modified version of wingchun makes no sense?

If JKD is not a martial arts how can this type of combat fighting have a name put to it then.Obviously if it's called JKD it's a martial arts.I know Bruce Lee regreted calling it anything at all but that doesn't change the fact that it is still a form of martial arts.

Second of all if JKD isn't a martial arts yet it is a modified version of Wing Chung I guess that means Wing Chung isn't really a martial arts either then.

Also Sherwinc, if JKD is not a martial arts but a modified version of Wing Chung which is part of Kung Fu I guess Kung Fu isn't really a martial arts either is it? If it is then none of what you say about JKD not being a martial arts makes any sense.

If this is what you're saying,which sounds like it to me then how can Kung Fu be best martial arts when it's not even considered a martial arts to begin with.

You don't even know what the hell you're saying any more do you?

[IPON]

That's aload of crap,if he hadn't brought martial arts to America someone else eventually would have.Besides if I'm correct martial arts was around in America way before his time.

You are completely correct. Bruce Lee had nothing to do with bringing MA to AMerica. MAs existed in America decase before Lee was born

[IPON]

For anyone who says JKD is not a martial arts but a modified version of wingchun makes no sense?

Actually, it makes complete sense. There are basically 2 schools of thought concerning JKD, which ultimately is a source of all the endless debates:

1. JKD is a Philosophy
2. JKD is an actual MA with specific technique (in fact early criticisms of JKD while bruce was alive was that in was not a true MA due to its lack of weapons training)

Now the Philosophy of JKD no one can argue. However, when Lee started he was a wing chun practitioner From Seattle, LA and Oakland what he taught his Jun Fan gung fu to JKD was basically an incomplete form or "modified" of wingchun. Now there is a type of wing chun called "modified wing chun" but that does not apply to Lee or JKD. Lee "Modified" the wing chun that learned, basically filling in the gaps he had in training.

Now the next part I can only give my opinions, others will disagree (opinions are like assholes ...everyone has one). Lee was trying to find his way in MA, WC was his vehicle. In order to teach the masses the philosophy he had to be able to demonstrate, otherwise he would be one of the esoteric grandmasters that he himself complained about. What he was his modified version of wing chun or JKD. This JKD changed as he changed. The reason he did not want to name the style nor did he want the name used is because the point was not the technique per se it was the philosophy behind it...the MA style did not matter. If you study Goju ryu fine......apply these principles to your Goju ryu and you will be a better practioner.

Now everyone wants to call their style JKD for profit. They either strictly hold onto what was taught in LA Seattle or Oakland which is opposite to the goal of JKD or they have some other MMa format which has nothing to do what Lee taught. Personally, I wish people would stop disrespecting Lee and leave the name alone.

Anyway, that's my 2 cents hope it was helpful