Would Bruce Lee win UFC fights had he been still alive and willing to compete?

[CKD]

Extremely Correct!!!!!!!!!

Bruce Lee:
Why joining UFC if he will always win using his KungFu...... he will surely wasting his time in UFC proving his winning there as an evidence......

Because it is the only way to prove the art works. How do you know its better if you never proved it? Bruce Lee never said kung fu was best. He went off and studied other systems like judo, wrestling, boxing and thai boxing and related to Bob Wall about how kung fu tends to lose to muay thai. Can you direct me to all his interviews where he says kung fu is best Sherwinc? In his movie when he fights Chuck Norris when he wins Bruce Lee said that represents that he stopped trying to use kung fu and utilized everything else he knew to win. From Bruce Lee's interviews he seems to bash TMA's.

[DrAgOn-T]

in his prime or not bruce would have had his ass handed to him by royce just like everybody else did in those days, and he would have been the first celebrity to fall victim to the Gracies

[sherwinc]

Because it is the only way to prove the art works. How do you know its better if you never proved it? Bruce Lee never said kung fu was best. He went off and studied other systems like judo, wrestling, boxing and thai boxing and related to Bob Wall about how kung fu tends to lose to muay thai. Can you direct me to all his interviews where he says kung fu is best Sherwinc? In his movie when he fights Chuck Norris when he wins Bruce Lee said that represents that he stopped trying to use kung fu and utilized everything else he knew to win. From Bruce Lee's interviews he seems to bash TMA's.

there in the movie Enter the Dragon, all of the Non-kungfu martial arts is been defeated by his kungfu, and the only art that he always advertise is all kungfu...... try to see all of his movies and all of his documentaries in order for you to convinced........

[CKD]

there in the movie Enter the Dragon, all of the Non-kungfu martial arts is been defeated by his kungfu, and the only art that he always advertise is all kungfu...... try to see all of his movies and all of his documentaries in order for you to convinced........

Are you kidding? Why was he doing grouns fighting in one of his movies in the beginning? That sure didn't look like kung fu. Also you seemed toignore the fact that Bruce Lee said that in his movie were he started to beat Chuck Norris he said when he started beating him up symbolized when he stopped being restricted by kung fu and start using other martial arts. He also called kung fu stances retarded, kung fu forms retarded, and said that kung fu ussually got beat by muay thai. Oh yeah he really loves it. He called kung fu restricting.

[DrAgOn-T]

ok how I have to say this, BRUCE IS DEAD, he may have been the most deadly son of a bitch to have ever lived, BUT THE POINT IS MOOT. Who cares what he used in his movies, and besides that is what they were, M-O-V-I-E-S. He could have said that he was using tai chi and have thrown a head butt, and you guys would still argue over it. so just to make sure I got my point across, HE IS DEAD, HE IS NOT COMING BACK TO TEACH ANYONE THE SECRETS OF MARTIAL ARTS, AND HIS PUNCHES DON'T MEAN SHIT ANYMORE SINCE HIS ARMS HAVE PROBABLY ROTTED OFF.

[sherwinc]

Are you kidding? Why was he doing grouns fighting in one of his movies in the beginning? That sure didn't look like kung fu.

Now I see how ignorant you are......

Ground Fight is our common moves like what Bruce did......

It is still KungFu, all that the moves he does is what we also did, that's the reason why we achieve the ratio of hit 2:22...... yes!!!!! it is truely effective......

since Jeet Kune Do is a modified WingChun...... while ChiDianBun has a closely resemblance to WingChun and in fact it has a similarity to NgoChoKun too..... but ChiDianBun is merge with Hik Style Tai Chi Chuan.......

we are reaching in a KungFu deep knowledge......

Note:
remember...... all of the moves he did whether it is Bruce Lee Movies or Bruce Lee Documentary Series is all found in KungFu....... KungFu has 400 styles and systems existed and exterminated.......

maybe i am ignorant in some of the KungFu there in your place but i am sure that you are ignorant too in our ChiDianBun KungFu, AngKa KungFu, 5 Family Styles of TaiChiChuan (Hik, Kiaw, Chua, Tan, and Yang Styles)

Also you seemed toignore the fact that Bruce Lee said that in his movie were he started to beat Chuck Norris he said when he started beating him up symbolized when he stopped being restricted by kung fu and start using other martial arts. He also called kung fu stances retarded, kung fu forms retarded, and said that kung fu ussually got beat by muay thai. Oh yeah he really loves it. He called kung fu restricting.

all of the moves he attack to Chuck Norris is all KungFu...... we also fight like that, but we dont do jumping and hopping like what Bruce did cause its too exhausted...... i am very sure that it is really effective...... a combination of STILLNESS and MOVING STANCES........

Note:
the techniques that Bruce did to defeat Chuck Norris are also found in our KungFu (Kok Sut):
1. Switching from Low Kicks to High Kicks - all Leading Kicks
(leading kick - kungfu) (rear kick - non-kungfu martial arts)

2. Using his short distance fist combinations (WingChun KungFu)

3. Using his Long distance swinging fist combinations (AngKa KungFu)

4. As well as sweeping kicks are all found in KungFu......

5. remember the shadowless hand and feet combinations are all found in kungfu
(while telegraphic hand and feet attacks are all found in non-kungfu martial arts)

Note:
the fights of BruceLee and ChuckNorris is in Way of the Dragon is only a movie...... in a non-movie fights, their fights must be a ratio of 2:22 (Bruce hit Norris 22times, while Norris hit Bruce only 2times)

hahahahahahaha

Bruce won't fool me with his Jeet Kune Do propaganda...... what i mean is..... Jeet Kune Do is only his Movie Martial Arts...... while Bruce Real Life art is WingChun, AngKa, WuStyleTaiChiChuan, some of Crane, Tiger KungFu's........ and dont forget his WuShu KungFu kicks like those of outside/inside Crane Crescent kickings.......

in his movie Enter The Dragon:
there you could see Bruce Lee performing his WuShu kickings inside his room before that scar-face wearing his kimono enters the room of Bruce w/o permission then Bruce lee shout to scarface "outside!!!!!!"

that WuShu Kicks of Bruce Lee i really impressed!!!!!!!

Convinced???????????

in the movie The Dragon "The Bruce Lee Story" by Jason Scott Lee:
Linda's mother said to Bruce - Judo can't buy Bread
Bruce Lee replied to Linda's mother - KungFu (not Judo)
see?????? kungfu is his martial art and nothing more......

Advice:
dont let Bruce fool you all non-kungfu martial arts there......

[CKD]

Do you learn how to apply crucifix holds in kung fu? I think not.

[m.artist]

since Jeet Kune Do is a modified WingChun

jesus christ man! will you stop saying that! jkd is not a style...modified wing chun is...oh wait...is that your whole theory going out the window?

[Tom Yum]

in the movie The Dragon "The Bruce Lee Story" by Jason Scott Lee:
Linda's mother said to Bruce - Judo can't buy Bread
Bruce Lee replied to Linda's mother - KungFu (not Judo)
see?????? kungfu is his martial art and nothing more......

Advice:
dont let Bruce fool you all non-kungfu martial arts there......

You didn't understand the dialogue.

Linda's mom said Judo because that was the generic term for all martial arts in the 1960's. Just like karate and kungfu became the generic term for all martial arts in the 70's & 80's.

[DrAgOn-T]

by the way, it's a MOVIE who knows whether or not she REALLY said that in the first place?

[sherwinc]

You didn't understand the dialogue.

Linda's mom said Judo because that was the generic term for all martial arts in the 1960's. Just like karate and kungfu became the generic term for all martial arts in the 70's & 80's.

HAW HAW HAW HAW

here in the Philippines, all types of Martial Arts..... are all called KARATE

[sherwinc]

jesus christ man! will you stop saying that! jkd is not a style...modified wing chun is...oh wait...is that your whole theory going out the window?

but all hand and feet attacks of bruce lee is all found in KungFu....... all of bruce's moves, steppings, everything are still kungfu, no matter what he says, he can't fool me......

[m.artist]

sure they are!
and if bruce's original art was tae kwon do, im sure you would still say that his art is kung fu right?
wing chun was his original art. then he began to form his own philosphy about that martial arts. and he came to the conclusion that tradition and form hinder a martial artist from being at a peak performance, especially in terms of practicality. please, for the sake of all bruce lee fans everywhere, stop saying bruce's fighting art was wing chun gung fu...it wasn't
he said so...why can't you accept that fact?
he said it himself.
kung fu limits him...he said it..he wasn't trying to fool anyone..yet you show your stupidity and are still fooled anyway.....
bruce's art, his way of thought, his philosophy, his fighting path,
was and would have been to this day
jeet kune do
not kung fu, not wing chun, not anything you say
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CONVINCED?????

[gtoinlv]

A Definative Answer!!

I am Bruce Lee's #1 Student. Let me quantify that. I have ammased a collection of every book, video, magazine, internet material etc etc available on Bruce Lee and am still collecting. But most importantly I have assimilated all of the information and can give you a definative answer to your question posted here.

First of all I think Bruce would be quite happy that anyone even cares as much to talk about him this long after his death. Bruce was far above and beyond martial art. He was a master of thought, and of the peeling away of all things illusionary, and deceptive. If anything he learned the art of taking a matter at hand, stripping it to it's essential components and assimilating the information, in as effecient a way as possible. Bruce was a problem solver.

Now to address a few things first of all Bruce was once asked about what he would do when he was in his 60's... and Bruce answered he would be the best 60 year old around. Bruce was a VERY REALISTIC man. But as it is I think the main topic here is assuming Bruce in his prime which to me was during Return of the Dragon era.

He once was asked what would he give to be 6' and 220 lbs. And he said if I were 6' and 220 lbs he would rule the world. So therefore we KNOW Bruce admitted a major size descrepancy. (A predominate reason his teaching of Chinese Martial Art to Americans was frowned upon. They were concerned that if much larger Americans learned their techniques their advantage would be lost... Which essentially is true)

Lets deal with basic physics. Given equal velositites a larger man's punch carries more force than a smaller man. However do the math. A smaller man's faster punch can be tremendously more devastating than a larger man. Also remember Bruce was absolutely solid muscle and bone. If you were to calculate his lean muscle mass volume compared to many larger men I think it would be close to equal. He did not believe in carrying around any excess fat.

Now back to UFC... first of all in and of itslef once again we are dealing with a SPORT!!! Not fighting!!! Not true "as it is" fighting. And Bruce once said in a real fight he would absolutely annihalate an opponent and rip their guts out. Not to mention probably gougung their eyes out after a sharp snappy kick to the balls. You see Bruce was looking at Martial Art as exaclty that "MARTIAL" What he did in the movies he admitted was artistic and somewhat more flashy than would be a true encounter...for entertainment purposes... altough he did believe strongly in still conveying his ideas through his films. Basically a REAL: fight with Bruce Lee in one which he did not feel he simply out classed an opponent...one in which Bruce felt a true challenge existed...he would focus on a rapid and immediate death to the opponent...but being that Bruce was not a murderer...I believe this to be the primary reason he never would have taken part in UFC.

From a simple technique and fighting standpoint. Bruce was a kicker...An amazing Kicker in that he truly trained his legs to be as much of a weapon as his hands. There have been UFC fighters who could kick...however what normally happens... A UFC fighter throws a half-a$$ kick, many times while going backwards..they either throw it in such a way as they never really intend to kick, or it is so sloppy they get caught by a good grappler with a takedown. Bruce could snap kicks and return to his fighting position blazingly fast..with PURPOSE and INTENTION. NO UFC fighter has even approached His Kicking ability. I think of Vitor Belfort..how we've seen him come out in animalistic fashion wiht his hands and dispatch opponents rapidly. Such is the way we would see a Bruce Lee.

Above all though do you know what we would see from Bruce in a competition as this would be TREMENDOUS ring generalship. It is much more talked about in Boxing. Howere I know Bruce would win most UFC fights because he was a master of dictating where he would want the fight to go. He had the confidnece and animalistic "It's you or me" attitude..and simply would win..or die.

Anyways people can say what they will..good or bad about Bruce but when EVERY person he touched personally in life has nothing but good things to say about him...THAT says something. Bruce was a kind man, a generous man. Overly generous. In an effort to give to his people, his family, his art, his audience, his students, his friends.... he just forgot to step back and take care of Bruce first.

I never knew Bruce Lee... but I feel like his friend....and miss him everyday.

[sherwinc]

I am Bruce Lee's #1 Student. Let me quantify that. I have ammased a collection of every book, video, magazine, internet material etc etc available on Bruce Lee and am still collecting. But most importantly I have assimilated all of the information and can give you a definative answer to your question posted here.

First of all I think Bruce would be quite happy that anyone even cares as much to talk about him this long after his death. Bruce was far above and beyond martial art. He was a master of thought, and of the peeling away of all things illusionary, and deceptive. If anything he learned the art of taking a matter at hand, stripping it to it's essential components and assimilating the information, in as effecient a way as possible. Bruce was a problem solver.

Now to address a few things first of all Bruce was once asked about what he would do when he was in his 60's... and Bruce answered he would be the best 60 year old around. Bruce was a VERY REALISTIC man. But as it is I think the main topic here is assuming Bruce in his prime which to me was during Return of the Dragon era.

He once was asked what would he give to be 6' and 220 lbs. And he said if I were 6' and 220 lbs he would rule the world. So therefore we KNOW Bruce admitted a major size descrepancy. (A predominate reason his teaching of Chinese Martial Art to Americans was frowned upon. They were concerned that if much larger Americans learned their techniques their advantage would be lost... Which essentially is true)

Lets deal with basic physics. Given equal velositites a larger man's punch carries more force than a smaller man. However do the math. A smaller man's faster punch can be tremendously more devastating than a larger man. Also remember Bruce was absolutely solid muscle and bone. If you were to calculate his lean muscle mass volume compared to many larger men I think it would be close to equal. He did not believe in carrying around any excess fat.

Now back to UFC... first of all in and of itslef once again we are dealing with a SPORT!!! Not fighting!!! Not true "as it is" fighting. And Bruce once said in a real fight he would absolutely annihalate an opponent and rip their guts out. Not to mention probably gougung their eyes out after a sharp snappy kick to the balls. You see Bruce was looking at Martial Art as exaclty that "MARTIAL" What he did in the movies he admitted was artistic and somewhat more flashy than would be a true encounter...for entertainment purposes... altough he did believe strongly in still conveying his ideas through his films. Basically a REAL: fight with Bruce Lee in one which he did not feel he simply out classed an opponent...one in which Bruce felt a true challenge existed...he would focus on a rapid and immediate death to the opponent...but being that Bruce was not a murderer...I believe this to be the primary reason he never would have taken part in UFC.

From a simple technique and fighting standpoint. Bruce was a kicker...An amazing Kicker in that he truly trained his legs to be as much of a weapon as his hands. There have been UFC fighters who could kick...however what normally happens... A UFC fighter throws a half-a$$ kick, many times while going backwards..they either throw it in such a way as they never really intend to kick, or it is so sloppy they get caught by a good grappler with a takedown. Bruce could snap kicks and return to his fighting position blazingly fast..with PURPOSE and INTENTION. NO UFC fighter has even approached His Kicking ability. I think of Vitor Belfort..how we've seen him come out in animalistic fashion wiht his hands and dispatch opponents rapidly. Such is the way we would see a Bruce Lee.

Above all though do you know what we would see from Bruce in a competition as this would be TREMENDOUS ring generalship. It is much more talked about in Boxing. Howere I know Bruce would win most UFC fights because he was a master of dictating where he would want the fight to go. He had the confidnece and animalistic "It's you or me" attitude..and simply would win..or die.

Anyways people can say what they will..good or bad about Bruce but when EVERY person he touched personally in life has nothing but good things to say about him...THAT says something. Bruce was a kind man, a generous man. Overly generous. In an effort to give to his people, his family, his art, his audience, his students, his friends.... he just forgot to step back and take care of Bruce first.

I never knew Bruce Lee... but I feel like his friend....and miss him everyday.

see????? as i told you there who won't believe me yet.....

all of Bruce Lee moves, attacks and defenses are all found in KungFu, i know it cause that is also the way we spar........

you could not tell whether what kind of KungFu Category we learned cause it is a combinations of all Good kungfu moves, and throw away the remaining stupid moves of KungFu........ and improvising each to match and compatible to the practitioner's body structure and fighting talents......