Wearing a Gi for the first time...

[FUH-Q]

a gi is a uniform worn by many traditional martial artists. usually white and very thick. imagine a rug (like the kind u would use to wrap around furniture when u move) with arms and collars. its used because it would get expensive to wear shirts and regular gym pants while training (grappling) because they easily rip. a gi is thick and made to last constant abuse.

at my bjj school we are taught how to use the gi if the situation allows for clothes, however my instructor also generely makes us use wrists, elbows and other parts of the body rather than the gi. if the person happens to be wearing a very strong jacket and the oppurtunity presents itself great, chokem, if not use your forearm or an artiry choke.

its great to train with a gi because it improves your defense, however if you dont admit that the person you get into a fight with might not happen to be wearing a throw rug that day and train using wrist and elbow control u will get the best of both worlds.

[Apoth]

Think of the traditional karate uniform you see and you have a Gi. It's a traditional jacket and pants usually made out of cotton and tied up in a belt that karate/judo/aikido/ju jitsu etc. practicioners wear

[Karenstar]

Thanks guys didn't have a clue.

[IPON]

Originally posted by MuayThaiFighter


Agreed but nothing beats the actual grabbing of a person.

If a person has a jacket chances are I 'm not going to try and choke him with it,I'd rather pull it over his face so he can't see what is coming and starting pounding on him with punches,knees and elbows even.

A little hard to grapple when your face is covered and you can't see what is coming.

Jules - we are definatly on teh same page. QUEENS in the house yeah I am in washington Height you passed me on the way over the GWB I was responding to this quote from MTF. and my point was by reaching to pul somones jacket over thier head you leave yourself vulnerable for a throw or takedown just a note of caution.

Thank for the good word

Sean: "(just don't bring the pocketknife or broken glass!)"
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!! No more fair one's in Y2K so if you cant retreat pull the heat (just joking)



Karen: What everyone said about the Gi is correct except there is a difference in the traditional gi and single/double weave judogi. The judogi is much thicker to accomodate the extress from throws chokes, sweeps (randori) etc in practice

[MuayThaiFighter]

Originally posted by Sean Dempsey



It's the merry-go-round.

BJJ guys, first of all, train lots of take downs, and take down defenses. If a BJJ purple belt were to face a "wrestler" in the "streets", it doesn't mean that automatically they are gonna get double legged and slammed to the ground. Just as easily the wrestler could be clinched and end up on his back with the BJJ guy's knee across his chest, seconds away from an armbar.

People who don't wear gi's talk trash on them, people who do wear gi's talk about how much they love them. It doesn't matter, I tap guys wearing gi's and I tap guys wearing shirts.

You can wear a tutu for all I care. You still have arteries in your neck and cartlidge in your joints.

(just don't bring the pocketknife or broken glass!)

If you are trying to imply something about what I said about the gi with your statement there you are wrong, because I wasn't talking trash about the uniform I was simply asking a question. I am sorry if you or any one else was insulted by my question but I was just being curious.

In your first statement here you make it sound like a wrestler will always lose against a jujitsu fighter,because you guys train in lots of take downs and take down defenses well I got news for you submission wrestlers learn all that too,we learn basically everything Jujitsu people learn there is very little difference. As far as I am concerned putting a Jujitsu guy against a Submission Wrestler is no different then putting a Jujitsu person against another Jujitsu person other then the grabbing the gi that a submission wrestler doesn't wear and the result can go either way.

The only time a Jujitsu person is guaranteed to beat a submissin wrestler is under Jujitsu rules where you have to grab uniform to apply a technique because we're not used to that.

The same applies for a submission wrestler winning under wrestling rules where you have to grab person instead of a uniform which we are used to doing.

Under rules where there is an option between grabbing a uniform or the person and it can go either way provided the Jujitsu person knows how to fight both ways.

This is of course just my opinion I could be wrong though.

[jubaji]

Originally posted by MuayThaiFighter



This is of course just my opinion I could be wrong though.

So, it might not be your opinion?

[falcon3624]

Actually I beleive a BJJ uniform is called a kimono by most. That's what I call it while I call my karate uniform a gi.

[jules]

MTF

I think that BJJ has a strong enough track record in No Gi comps to say that the gi does not deter your no gi game...

[spiderchoke]

Gi!

No Gi!


Yogi?

[IPON]

Falcon - my understanding is that kimono is more general term for the type of garment and more traditional styles of JJJ will use the term kimono (especially if worn with hakama like in Aiki JJ) and Gi refers to a specific type of kimo that is used for MA. Ultamitely, I think the term is interchangable so either term is correct. Anyway, that's my understanding.

Jules - excactly, I think that is the point, basically it makes no difference

[hawk59]

speaking of gi..

Spiderchoke,

If you're still interested in training in the Des Moines area, let me know. Thanks.