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  • Reality Check Alex!

    REALITY CHECK ALEX!! Fact: Alex Xaver is 16 years old! He was born on Oct 28 1987, he trained at East West Academy with Kevin Seaman for less than 2 years in Jun Fan and sporadically in Thai Boxing as a novice student. His exact history and attendance was from 11/14/01 until 8/14/03. Alex, your total tuition your MOTHER paid during that period was $1,365. That breaks down to $65. per month for 2 structured classes per week+ full use of the 5,300 sq. ft. facility and equipment 5 days a week. That is $2.16 a day. How do I know all this? I’m Kevin Seaman. Alex, you never were or have been anything more than a mediocre martial artist. I have no idea where you have conjured up these fantasies about you being a fighter or a martial arts instructor, but let me explain the reality for you. A martial arts instructor is not a title, it is an attitude, toward what you do, how you do it and who you influence in a positive way. It is about personal interaction and guidance, helping others and mentoring your skills, self-discipline and self-respect. It is about treating others you interact with, with respect and dignity. Alex, and although you were given an abundance of chances by me, and many others, including your parents, you have yet to realize the magnitude of these qualities and how they can affect, both your life and the people you come in contact with daily. It troubles me that you are able to sling insults and lies like mud, without any consciousness as to how you may be perceived and how you will affect others.

    As far as the insulting comments about me and Ajarn Chai; Pasted from your post: According to Alex: “no offence chilly dog, but kevin is a money hungry, scammer. The stuff he teaches is SHIT !, and he is a washed up joke (like chai). I trained under him for 3 years, the only thing i got was some useless, fake muay thai. I did not realize it til i went and acutally trained with a few thais, and they laughed at me because my stuff was so useless. AND i was one of the top students there.”

    I will address each as they all have relevance as to your delusions. Do you not remember all the times I went in conference with your mother when she wanted to pull you out of classes. I defended you, because I knew you had nothing else to focus on, and I wanted to help you. I also let you work for me, and allowed you to take the equipment you wanted for work-trade. Although your work habits were terrible, I allowed you to continue to help out, believing this would give you some feeling of belonging and help develop your self-esteem. Incidentally, Alex, any person who has to degrade others to build their own self-concept, has a very low self-concept, self-image and self-esteem. I will not even comment on my credentials and the quality of what I teach. I have taught thousands of satisfied students, mentored dozens of adolescents, trained nearly 40 instructors, dozens of full-contact competitors
    (some were state, regional and national champions) in Muay Thai, stickfighting , boxing, MMA over a period of 34 years. I have gladly sacrificed, giving of myself to anyone worthy, many times at no cost to the individual and no profit to me.

    As far as AJARN CHAI is concerned, how dare you attack a man of his stature and professional credibility. You are truly a DISCRACE to me and everyone who has had contact with Ajarn Chai in the three decades he has been here from Bankok.

    Acording to you Alex:
    “Chai's muay thai is poison in MY OPPINION, 90% of the stuff he teaches is his own crap that he made up, and it sucks, its not real muay thai”

    Well, you ignorant kid, Ajarn Chai is the student of many Thai Champions, including Fairtex Master Trainer and Living Legend, Apedij Sit-Hirun, one of the chief instructors in Fairtex, Thailand. Isn’t that where you went? To Fairtex West in SF for only one week. Ask Phicheat (Ganyao "Dr. Knee" Fairtex) Arunleung The Director of Training about Ajarn Chai. Ganyao, Sak Kasaam, Bunkerd all know Ajarn Chai and have the upmost respect for him. TAKE NOTICE! Ajarn Chai has well over 30,000 followers, many of who would be less than gracious if they knew what you have said about their Ajarn. The list includes champions, fighters, teahers and students from 14 countries. His organization, “the Thai Boxing Association of the USA” is the only organization outside of Thailand recognized by the KING of Thailand. Isn’t it true Alex that you have never even met Ajarn Chai Sirisute, let alone trained with him.

    Your disgraceful, ignorant behavior has upset many people and I will not be responsible for your consequences. I washed my hands of you last year when I heard the demeaning things you told other people about me. You and your self-accredited boxing coach both have some serious emotional problems.
    Do not attack me verbally again, either of you. Your behavior is inexcusable!

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    I dunno who either of you are, but this guy your telling off sounds like a dick... if he says you teach faulty stuff, just go kick his ass... I mean in some sort of ... competition of course... I would never condone anything but that lol. Anyway, good read to see how dumb that kid was.

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    • #3
      i have got to go to the gym right now, so i will formulate a reasponce there.
      but there are the main points...

      i know i am 16 and everyone i train knows it to, that means nothing, i garuntee there are 10 year olds in thailand that know more than you could ever dream of. Age tell you nothing

      "I have no idea where you have conjured up these fantasies about you being a fighter or a martial arts instructor" i am a 5 fight amature, and i am more of a fighter than 99% of your "fighters" ever where. I am in the gym 4 hours a day, i acutally (a concept you never understood) go to fights every weekend. And as for an instructor, i never claimed to be an instructor, i claimed that i you get in the gym i will get you in shape and teach you how to fight. I am not about belts and certifications and all of that, because that is not what muay thai is. Muay thai is about being in the gym and working until you can not work anymore, then getting in the rign and showing how much you worked in the gym.

      I appreciate all of the stuff you did for me when i was there. but all that did was let me learn bad habbits, that where very difficult to break when i learned the real stuff. and as for the thousands of satisfied sutdents, ect. they are satisfied beacase they are agnorrant about what they where doing.

      as for chai. Here are some reasons i dont trust him; He was rich, most rich people dont really want it. He only have 70 something fights, and he never one any worthy championships. And the main reason, it is not thai, bottom line, i cant say it any more clear than that.

      I will work on a better sounding responce and have it up tomorrow, and i wish this would have not gone this far, but it did... :-)

      Nice talking to you again,
      AlexX

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      • #4
        Originally posted by SamuraiGuy
        I dunno who either of you are, but this guy your telling off sounds like a dick... if he says you teach faulty stuff, just go kick his ass... I mean in some sort of ... competition of course... I would never condone anything but that lol. Anyway, good read to see how dumb that kid was.
        As I said in an earlier post, I can definitely vouch for Sifu Seaman. He is one of the best martial artists I've ever had the benefit to train with, and I've trained with some of the best. However, beyond his technical skill, he's an outstanding teacher and person, one whom I'm proud to be associated with. This past weekend, I had the opportunity to train at Sifu Francis Fong's school in Atlanta, and found what I always have: Sifu Seaman is regarded with the utmost respect by his colleagues.

        I don't know Alex, but I have two suggestions for him:

        1) Find a way to use spell & grammar check -- the nonsense in your posts is tough enough to figure out -- translating it into english makes it even tougher!

        (this sentence is classic, but typical: "and as for the thousands of satisfied sutdents, ect. they are satisfied beacase they are agnorrant about what they where doing.")


        2) Think about this quote that my father taught me when I was your age: "it is better to remain silent, and appear a fool, than to open your mouth, and remove all doubt!"

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        • #5
          Actually SFBs, you do claim to be a martial arts instructor in your public profile. BTW, you SUCK!

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          • #6
            dont know what i was thinkin when i wrote that profile

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            • #7
              The following is in response to Kevin Seaman’s rant posted on this forum on 7/21/04

              Under normal circumstances I would not engage in this petty debate but since we are discussing the infamous Sifu Seaman, I shall give him the respect of an accurate response.

              The relationship you have or do not have with Alex Xaver is quite frankly none of my business. The fact that you tried to group us together and insult me just shows your immaturity, but that’s easily solved by a quick debate at 130 S. Main St. – my gym.

              Alex Xaver must be doing something correct for he has been invited to train and compete in Thailand. Frankly it’s not Alex’s fault that the leading authorities in Muay Thai think that you and chai teach an out-dated and inadequate style. And also it is certainly not my fault. I know very little about muay thai and I have never on one occasion claimed otherwise. I do know the facts about my involvement:

              1) you have never trained a thai boxing champion

              2) your classes sparred maybe once every three months

              3) you have never competed in thai boxing as a fighter

              4) no less than 30 of you former/current students have come to me to learn boxing because your thai classes are boring and far too costly.

              5) I have personally talked to 3 promoters of thai boxing in the USA whom all claim that you never return their calls for fights (over 200 shows per year) yet you have told all of your students in front of me that there are no fights in the USA. I personally have dated for 3 tournaments and 41 muay thai shows over the next 3 months in the US and Canada


              As for my credentials, what would you like to know?
              Here are some of the facts:

              1) before the age of 15 I had 31 amateur bouts, including 3 national championships. That should be enough for this discussion

              2) as a trainer I have trained 2 national champions (including Alex Xaver) 3 golden gloves champions. And I currently train one of the top LT Heavyweights in the state of NY including NYC. (witch I have trained form scratch)

              3) I am a registered coach with USA boxing and my gym is accredited by the same.


              As for you being the moral sifu, here are the facts:

              1) you left your wife for a student, whom then you for a younger man

              2) you are 50 years old and playing on the computer bashing an over zealous 16 year old.

              3) you “train” “fighters” yet you won’t work their corners when they fight. Maybe that’s why they can’t win.

              4) you have used racial slurs in my presence on no less than 2 occasions

              5) you lied to a student because you did not want to “take the risk” of letting him train to fight because it was “too much effort with little reward”

              Although I cold list many more of your moral failures I shall refrain. Quite frankly I can’t believe I wasted this much time on this.

              Therefore, what you are about, sir, is the money. I hope you spend it well. I have doubled the enrollment in which you had at you school, which took you 25 years, in less than 4 months.

              I have retrained half the fighters you have trained. Frankly most of is the fighters you have trained can’s be fixed for they are so screwed up.

              As for chai, I have never met the man but I am sure he has earned his place. However as for you, you are an instructor, you teach a soft approach, and that is perfectly fine. I am a trainer, I train fighters to fight.

              That is a deference you won’t and can’t understand. Why? Because you, sir, teach by theory, not practical application. If you would like to learn how to do that I will be more than willing to make some time for you.

              As for your petty little threat about not being responsible for what your guys might do to me or my guys, and we all know that’s what you meant. Because it’s not the first time you have made that threat, maybe you should pull a poodle’s chain before you pull a pit bulls.

              By the way my address in 130 S. main st. feel free to respond at anytime.

              CT King

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              • #8
                You are full of shit Alex!!

                UNREAL!?!? Alex, you are sooooo typical of a snot-nosed, know-it-all, teenager, with a total lack of "RESPECT"! I don't personally know Mr. Kevin Seaman, However, I am a Khuen Khru under Ajarn Chai myself, so I have the utmost respect for Kevin, as I do all of Ajarn Chai's instructors within the TBA. I realize your beef with Kevin is not my business, HOWEVER, you insulted MY instructor too, so I felt the strong desire to tell you to shut your hole. Are you too naive to realize that if Ajarn Chai had not brought Muay Thai to the states in 1968, you would not have the opportunity to even study this incredible art?!? You are 16....DUH! What on earth gives you the right to say Ajarn Chai is not doing Thai. YOU HAVE NO FREAKIN' CLUE! And let's see, you are 16 and have had 5 fights....hmm....and you are going to teach someone how to be a fighter??? WHATEVER!!! You have been to one camp in Thailand, various camps teach techniques differently, as do various instructors....it is still Muay Thai, Dumb Ass! OH, and you said the Thais laughed at you?? Well, did it ever occur to you that maybe your technique plain sucked because you were doing it wrong??? I highly doubt that Kevin taught you useless material, judging by your post and all the bad spelling and grammar, I think you were just too stupid to apply it. Thai boxing is not just going to the gym and working hard and showing it in the ring.....if that is what it was about, then all boxers and "toughman" types would call there stuff Thaiboxing.

                I am posting this at the risk of lowering myself to your level, if that is even possible. What really bites my ass, and what i can't understand, is how can a 16 yr old fruit-of-the-loom wet spot, tell anyone what Muay Thai is all about and diss Ajarn Chai like that and diss a well respected student and instructor like Kevin Seaman in the same manner. My advice to you is keep your dumb ass in school to learn to spell and write in proper sentences, and most of all...LEARN SOME RESPECT FOR YOUR SUPERIORS! Then maybe, just maybe, start leaning Muay Thai again, because it sounds like you have a long way to go. Good Luck!

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                • #9
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                  • #10
                    I belive 100% everything i said about chai, but i did not indend to offend any of chais people. I may not have given chai as much of a chance as i should have. But i figured that since i trained with his NY state rep. the stuff i was getting was the stuff chai was teaching. I hope that it was not, and the oppinion i got of chai was wrong, but unfortunaley i dont think it is. and i realize that there are diffrent schools of muay thai, but the tba stuff is more of a k-1/kickboxing style than muay thai.

                    CT basicly covers everything i have to say... for now

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by alexjxaver
                      I belive 100% everything i said about chai, but i did not indend to offend any of chais people. I may not have given chai as much of a chance as i should have. But i figured that since i trained with his NY state rep. the stuff i was getting was the stuff chai was teaching. I hope that it was not, and the oppinion i got of chai was wrong, but unfortunaley i dont think it is. and i realize that there are diffrent schools of muay thai, but the tba stuff is more of a k-1/kickboxing style than muay thai.
                      I have been following this thread and what you wrote above was originally written by CTKING, but then edited out with "............." Sounds to me you are you posing as both CTKING and alexjxaver.

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                      • #12
                        CT is not a computer person, so he wrote it up today, and i registered him, and posted it for him

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                        • #13
                          then i forgot to change who i was when i posted again

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                          • #14
                            Alex,

                            Well, I will say this: I am glad to see you replied without getting as heated as I did in my post. Naturally, I don't know how Kevin runs his classes, but I do know a handful of thai instructors who have never fought and some who don't take much interest in helping their students get fights. While I do train fighters and do get them fights, it is not for me to judge them for not getting involved....I guess they have their own agenda. Yes, Ajarn has had no more than 70 fights, which is a lot less than many Thai champions, but he has trained numerous champions...as well as numerous "big name" instructors across the world. Based on your comment about TBA being like K-1 , I assume you have never trained with Ajarn Chai in person. Is this a safe assumption? I can tell you, honestly, first hand, that TBA Thaiboxing is not like the K-1. K-1 has no clinching, plum, knee play, upper body throws, and on and on. The TBA is all about "real" Muay Thai, and what works. That is not to say that other organizations are not as good, I won't knock the other orgs...but I do know the TBA is legit. Naturally, there may be some Thais in Thailand that do not care for Ajarn Chai, that is a normal thing, but I doubt there are very many. He is very well respected across the world. Afterall, it is the King of Thailand who has given Chai his blessing with the TBA.

                            As you can see, I am not dogging you with this post. I am trying the more professional, and respectful approach this time. Before you judge or dismiss the TBA or say any more about Ajarn Chai, I would highly recommend you learn alittle more about him and the org. While I admire a person being a little "over jealous" as CTKing put it, don't burn bridges you may have to cross again someday....just a suggestion. One other thing, the number of TBA instructors who read these pages are in the thousands, so you may offend a great deal more people than just me with your comments, just forewarning you.

                            Peace!

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                            • #15
                              Wow, that supprized me a bit. thanks for not posting in anger.

                              And not supprizingley i just recieved a chalange from on of kevins guys, a guy that i really liked, so we will see what happens

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