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  • #76
    the thread reads : who will win in a street fight.

    anything can happen in a street fight..or not happen..(even the fight most of the time)

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    • #77
      Originally posted by bigred389 View Post
      Wasn't there a K-1 event that pitted a bunch of boxers against a bunch of Muay Thai guys?

      I recall some of the fights ending pretty quickly via leg kick.
      It depends.

      Frans Botha put the hurt down on Cyril Abidi during their first bout, but got DQ'd cause he started punching Abidi on the way down and while on the ground.

      In their second meeting, Abidi defended punches alot better and slowed Botha down with leg kicks. He eventually landed a big kick upstairs, which sent Botha to the mat.

      Shannon Briggs KO'd a Pride fighter in a first round victory. He retired from MMA after his first fight because he said he never wants to get kicked in the legs again...lol.

      Botha got KOd by Fujiyama via kick to the head. Meanwhile,

      Masato squared off against a recently retired middleweight boxing champion, who had a really high KO percentage. The entire bout had the boxer taking the fight to Masato, whom was using thai kicks to the leg and body defensively while back tracking and moving away from his power hand.

      After absorbing/blocking about 10 kicks, the boxer got hit by a leg kick, fell and started crawling.

      Boxers have KOd muaythai fighters and vice versa. It just depends whose able to adapt to the other and use their skills.
      Last edited by Tom Yum; 04-06-2007, 10:00 AM.

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      • #78
        What is it they say in Muay Thai?

        kick beats punch beats elbow beats knee?

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        • #79
          Are you an angry person?

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          • #80
            Originally posted by white devil View Post
            In fact,youre not even writing this..im just imaginating this forum..actually we are all a hundred thousand miles away strapped to chairs with big tubes coming out of our heads and we are basicaly only dreaming this life..we are all a simulation of the matrix..im telling you its useless to fight!!
            Oh brother...

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Vapor View Post
              What is it they say in Muay Thai?

              kick beats punch beats elbow beats knee?
              How the hell?

              Where the hell did you hear that from?

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              • #82
                Masato (K-1) vs. Vince Phillips (Boxing).

                Tale of the tape:

                Phillips
                5'7.5" 152 lbs
                97-99' IBF welterweight boxing Champion
                60 Fights 48 Wins 34 Kos 11 Lost 1 Draw
                (Won 80% of fights; 74% of victories by KO).

                Masato
                5'8" 154 lbs
                02-03' K-1 Max Champion
                49 Fights 42 Wins 19 Kos 5 Lost 2 Draw
                (Won 86% of fights; 45% of victories by KO)


                Last edited by Tom Yum; 05-05-2007, 01:05 AM.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Garland
                  The title of the thread said STREETFIGHT.
                  I want to see a boxer and a kickboxer fight each other with broken beer bottles and see who would win.
                  Unfortunately, this is the only footage you can get of a boxer and kickboxer squaring off and its in a legally arranged fight.

                  Shannon Briggs (Boxing) vs. Tom Erikson (NHB)

                  K-1 Rules (Both fighters are fighting outside of their normal rules - Erikson comes from a wrestling background, but fights NHB)

                  Last edited by Tom Yum; 05-07-2007, 07:43 AM.

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                  • #84
                    Frans "The White Buffalo" Botha (boxing) vs. Cyril Abidi (K-1)



                    Botha rendered a quick beatdown, boxing style.

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                    • #85
                      Merciless Ray Mercer (Boxing) vs. Musashi (K-1). Not a good fight.

                      Last edited by Tom Yum; 05-05-2007, 01:43 AM.

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                      • #86
                        Botha (boxing) vs. Jerome Le Banner (K-1)

                        Le Banner is a decent boxer and actually rocks Botha a few times with a few solid right hooks and a nice left cross in the first round, but you can't keep boxing a boxer - Botha drops Le Banner in the 2nd.

                        The fight goes on with Le banner getting good solid clinch knees and decent kicks downstairs and upstairs; Botha returns the favor rocking Le Banner with some big punches -> Botha is tough as nails!




                        Last edited by Tom Yum; 05-06-2007, 01:42 AM.

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                        • #87
                          given equal athletes, its highly unlikey a boxer would beat a muay thai fighter. The old days of Thai boxers not having good hands is gone. Muay thai schools now teach hand skills as a root system. I make my fighters do 1 month hands only and yes I was a boxer, have titles etc and am a certified boxing instructor, so that my fighters are getting solid hand skills. You would be hard pressed to find an instructor now adays that doesnt feel theat hand skills are worthy of trianing.
                          my 2 cents, you can keep the change!

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by WMTI View Post
                            given equal athletes, its highly unlikey a boxer would beat a muay thai fighter. The old days of Thai boxers not having good hands is gone. Muay thai schools now teach hand skills as a root system. I make my fighters do 1 month hands only and yes I was a boxer, have titles etc and am a certified boxing instructor, so that my fighters are getting solid hand skills. You would be hard pressed to find an instructor now adays that doesnt feel theat hand skills are worthy of trianing.
                            my 2 cents, you can keep the change!
                            Excellent. I agree with you. Fortunately, most of the instructors I've trained under have emphasized western boxing too.
                            Last edited by Tom Yum; 05-07-2007, 07:55 AM.

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                            • #89
                              hello,

                              loaded question.

                              by western boxing, what do you mean? do you mean the stuff they do on tv? oscardelahoya/floydmayweather?

                              or do you mean actual pugilism? these are two different things.

                              pugilists used knees to legs, used clinch, used elbows, used kicking.

                              as far as your question: who has better hands? well, neither. the individual techniques known by players of both styles are comparable. what makes the difference is how each player handles range.

                              majapahit fighters tend to use serious punching as a finishing method, whereas, european fighters tended to use punching to control position.

                              lastly... sagat vs balrog.... sagat!!

                              thanks

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                              • #90
                                LOL

                                they actually say

                                elbow beatz a punch

                                knee beatz a kick

                                dumb fuckz

                                LOL

                                biatch

                                LOL

                                lollololollolollolololololololol

                                LOL

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