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    i want to know if muay thai is really that good. please tell me more about muay thai. is muay thai just elbow/kneeing/kicking/boxing?

  • #2
    no, it sux

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    • #3
      if it sux then why don't i see any bashing on muay thai and why many claims it is superior to other striking arts. i just want to know what muay thai is like. like, how they attack, or defend and if there are any grappling involved.

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      • #4
        You didn't catch empty's sarcasm.....

        see for yourself.

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        • #5
          heres a pretty informative page on muay thai, check it out.

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          • #6
            Do what I did, go along to a club. I quickly found out how useful my Karate, Wing Chun and Trad Jiu Jitsu was.

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            • #7
              wing chun isnt useful? i dont know, not having ever practiced it, but i thought it wasnt too bad from what others say. can u explain more about this bri ?

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              • #8
                Well, practiced seriously under a good arjarn/khruu ( master/teacher in thai) Muay Thai is quite devastating. Thai boxers are among the most feared fighters. Why? Well, in Thailand a thaiboxer starts training at the age of 5-6, and the training is very hard. You live and train in a camp. At 6 am they start running (cuz it gets really hot during the day), then they will practice with the bags and with a partner until 12. Training starts again around 15 until 18, with techniques, conditioning, sparring.....All this for 5/6 days a week, and the young boxers can have their first full-contact match at the age of 12. You can imagine how srtong they will be at 18! In western countries Muay Thai fighters are not that good, but of course there are exceptions. Thai boxers train and fight for a living, to have three bowls of rice a day, and later they can get more, depending on how good they become. But there is more: they fight for their camp and for their master, and a victory is of course an honour. In USA and Europe there is no such a thing, and I think that is the main difference. But I think you will be more interested in Muay Boran, the thai martial art from where Muay Thai comes. Muay Thai is a sport, a very violent sport where Muay Boran techniques cannot be used. It is an art that was used in war, and there are many more devastatind techniques. There are forms too, but they are very different from Gong-Fu forms. In the movie Ong-Bak you can see some of these techniques, the leading actor is very strong and had a long training in Muay Boran. Or you can check this website www.muaythai.it or www.muayboranengland.co.uk

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Tee Sok
                  In western countries Muay Thai fighters are not that good, but of course there are exceptions.
                  Like in my country

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                  • #10
                    Well, I've studied Muay Thai, Get a black belt in American Kenpo (Nick Cerio branch), Juijitsu, shoot wrestling, and escrima. I've personally fought guys from Tae kwon do, tang su do, shotokan, Juijitsu and Kenpo (obviously). Without addressing the "grapplers vs. strikers" issue, I can say that Muay Thai has proven to be the most affective of the striking arts from my experience, by far.

                    Really, it's not even a contest. Some of those with whom I've put the gloves on are instructors in some of these styles, and many of these guys are friends of mine. All of those who have remained friends have asked me where they can learn Muay Thai.

                    It's the techniques and the training methods that make it so affective. It's the full contact training on pads, and the drive yourself into the ground nature of the training that make the fighters tough, and used to the idea of hitting hard, and getting hit hard.

                    well, those are my 2 cents.

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                    • #11
                      I wouldnt say there is any superior style of fighting, kick boxing has serious holes when ur fighting someone of a different art. I was fighting a well expierenced kickboxer with a kungfu background, and i totally owned him with kicks to the head/body cause he could only do anything at an arms length. kick boxing sucks in the aspec of fighting other martial artists, because they are easily fooled, since there style only has about 10 different techniques that u master, something like faking an inward twisting kick and then accually highsection turning kick gets them everytime cause they havnt expierenced anything like that. Personally I took a few arts ( TKD, JeetkunDo, MT kickboxing, Systema *(Russian KGB assassin training) ) and molded them into one to suit my needs, TKD is important to master in the sense that it is super effective when used/delivered properly, kicking to the head and upper body with crazy speed/power (this depends on your master, some schools say kicking to the head is ineffective, this is because they are slow a$$ mothers), combine that with what u learned abotu speed and power to some elbow, knee and low kicking techniques from kickboxing, mix it up with some vital striking pionts u learned from JeetkunDo, and throw in abit of weapons defenses/grappling/immobilization techniques from systema. It all comes out as a pretty good style of fighting.

                      So in the end what im saying is to be the best at what u wanna do, u pretty much have to make ur own style, not every persons body feel/reacts in the exact same way, so not everyone is perfectly fit for a style they are tought, for instance lets say u dont feel comfortable in an "L" stance the way you should, moving ur front foot abit inward isnt goign to effect anything accept yoru patterns competition score, which is usually rigged anyways. but keep the big aspects the same, like if ur weigh is set back in the stance keep it that way, no centering of the weight. U dig?

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                      • #12
                        Muay Thai rocks for many of the same reasons that BJJ rocks.

                        They train at near full intensity against a resisting opponent for the majority of their training time.

                        Muay Thai is simple in the number of weapons that it presents to its practicioners, when it comes to learning all of the techniques. It is not simple when it comes to strategy, which is a huge area and definitely the one that takes the longer time to learn.

                        Muay Thai will teach you how to strike with incredible efficiency (skill acquisition). It will also teach you the strategy that will help you land those strikes (strategy). And it will teach you both (skill acquisition and strategy) in an intense environment that will make it easier to apply in the real world.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by EmptyneSs
                          wing chun isnt useful? i dont know, not having ever practiced it, but i thought it wasnt too bad from what others say. can u explain more about this bri ?
                          I did a whole thread about this last year. Heres the quick version.

                          - Pinky little punches that wouldn't hurt a fly
                          - Too many blocks, meaning that you wouldn't be able to use any of them
                          - It is too "incestuous", meaning that they learn how to fight other WC practioners. Someone from another style fights outside their area and defeats them
                          - no grappling
                          - too much "air punching", hence little impact development
                          - a great deal of time wasted on the defunct forms
                          - a snobbery, a belief that WC is "the best", leading to complacency and cutting corners in the hard work department.

                          I could go on.

                          I have been assured that "good WC" is out there, and maybe it is. As yet I have not seen it.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Toudiyama[NL]
                            Like in my country
                            Exactly! Ramon Dekkers is the first (and one of the few) westerners who beat a thai boxer in Thailand. He even k.o.'d him, and since then he is very famous in Thailand.

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                            • #15
                              I dunno man, what it all comes down to is if your good or not, cause if u blow at MT but rock at WC then i guess in your mind WC is going to be "the best" all riding on what ur body type is and how it moves and reacts. I dont think any martail art is "the best" and noone will ever know unless u took them all, but honestly they all have huge flaws when either fighting a real person, or person with weapons, or person from same or different martial art.

                              Ps: can u upload pictures on this website, that would kick some ass if you could. Is there a place you can ask the admin about that kinda stuff????

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