is muay thai really that good

[Juninho]

"Exactly! Ramon Dekkers is the first (and one of the few) westerners who beat a thai boxer in Thailand."

Both gyms I train at have people who did this - Lisa Howarth and 'Pele' Nathan. But anyway, that wasn't the point of my post.


"Is it any good?"
Good for what? It's good for getting you probably in the best physical shape of your life, good for getting rid of the days pent up aggression, and good for making you just that little bit more likely to survive an encounter with one of life's lobotmised violent minority. It's also a quality sport.

Also, while I don't try and buy into the 'my art is better than your art' stuff, you can't really argue with 99.99999% of mixed martial artists, K1 fighters etc who chose Muay Thai and western boxing as their base stand up arts.

[TONGPO]

I've seen Lisa Howarth fight...she's very good, and pretty hot too! Fights outa Leeds doesn't she? Bad Company? May be wrong, but deffo seen her fight.....

[TONGPO]

...oh and there'sa young lad definately outa Leeds. Liam Richardson I think his name is, and he's beat afew Thais. I saw him stop one in Manchester, he was a different class. He was only about 18. So while its fair to say the Thais are on the whole the best, they're by far from unbeatable

[Tee Sok]

Nothing to say about these athletes, their record speak for themselves. But that is not what I meant by "beating a thai in Thailand". In this link you can see what I mean: https://www.fightingmaster.com/legen...s/thailand.htm
In Thailand the best fighters fight at the Lumpinee or at the Ratchadamnern stadium. There are many more Muay Thai stadiums and tournaments, every province has one, and they can be compared to a minor local football league. But the champions and the best contenders will fight only in the Lumpinee and Ratchadamnern stadium, or at the King's cup tournament which is held once in a year. Nowadays, there is a thai boxer named Johmod who has established himself in Finland and now fights in Europe and USA. He had many fights, especially in Europe, and no one has beaten him outside Thailand (except the match that he "lost" against Pennacchio, who left the stadium for the hospital before he decided to retire) and I heard that it is hard to find someone who is willing to fight him.

[TONGPO]

and the best contenders will fight only in the Lumpinee and Ratchadamnern stadium

for sure ..the Thais see a champ of one of these stadiums as higher than a world champ. But I think slowly but surely the rest of the world is catching up

[mfern31]

Muay Thai Is The Best!

I've taken many different striking arts and came to the conclusion that if its not Muay Thai or Boxing Its crap! Fact is a medioker Boxer Or Muay Thai practitioner would beat the shit out of a blackbelt in many of the other striking arts. kung fu seemed to do really well in the UFC....... NOT!

[TONGPO]

I wouln't agree with that. I'm (in the scale of things) a medoicre MT practioner and I've been handed my ass by a BB in Karate several times...he jjst steam rolls me. Has myabe a 40lb weight advantage but if it was that poor it wouldn'tmatter would it? All comes down to how its taught, by who, to whom.

[sherwinc]

I wouln't agree with that. I'm (in the scale of things) a medoicre MT practioner and I've been handed my ass by a BB in Karate several times...he jjst steam rolls me. Has myabe a 40lb weight advantage but if it was that poor it wouldn'tmatter would it? All comes down to how its taught, by who, to whom.

a Black Belt in Karate defeated the Muay Thai???????

i won't believe in you..........

[Toudiyama[NL]]

[QUOTE=sherwinc]a Black Belt in Karate defeated the Muay Thai???????




By now we don't care anymore what you think or believe

[Thai Bri]

As far as stand up goes, when people from other arts fight full contact, befre long they train with Thai methods and Thai techniques. That has to say something.

[Tom Yum]

I think muay thai has the most intense training compared to other traditional martial arts. However, I think other styles are upping the intensity in order to keep up with MMA trends,

Kyokushin Karate and Enshin Karate are fierce full-contact fighting styles. So is Sanshou. These styles also train with high intensity and have victories against muay thai.

Muay Thai seems to produce the most devastating stand up fighters - Hoost, Dekkers, Crocop, Mike McDonald, Samart...and muay thai also consistantly produces good fighters, which is why it is different than other styles (except the above).

From time to time, you meet someone who trains in a unknown or traditional style and just happens to be one of the best fighters in that style and will give you trouble while sparring. But he got there because he has tested his style repeatedly against different kinds of fighters and has refined what he knows. A classic example is someone like Bruce Lee who was orginally a WC stylist and evolved into JKD. There are others like him in arts like silat, kenpo, hapkido...

[True $chool]

I've taken many different striking arts and came to the conclusion that if its not Muay Thai or Boxing Its crap! Fact is a medioker Boxer Or Muay Thai practitioner would beat the shit out of a blackbelt in many of the other striking arts. kung fu seemed to do really well in the UFC....... NOT!

i couldnt agree with you more. iv been trainin in thai boxing for a lil over a year and a half and its such a demanding art physically and mentally. there are so many aspects and styles of it that makes it nearly impossible to master(if possible at all). by far the best stand up fighting.



E.D.M.A FIGHT SQUAD.
-true $chool

[GrayGhost]

Is Muay Thai good for tall people to learn or should I stick Western boxing? I'm 6'7 and I want something to complement my BJJ. Anyone has a suggestions?

[Tom Yum]

If you're 6'7" muay thai would be perfect for you. Muay thai is made for guys who are taller or thin, but you don't have to be.

Boxing is better for top heavy guys, but tall guys too. Completely different fight strategies and styles dpending on your build and attributes.

[GrayGhost]

Cool, thx for the advice. I'm 6'7 and about 290. But in BJJ I'm losing weight so I'll get down to 230. Would a muscle head 6'7 at 230 still be good at mauy thai or boxing?

Really I want something for street fighting cause BJJ isn't an ideal marital art for a streetfight. I mean who wants to go onto the ground in a bar with ac ouple of your opponents buddies around you.