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  • #46
    Originally posted by sihing
    You can be tough as nails, kick or punch faster than lightning but if you do it in a uneffective or unefficient way then you have nothing against someone that has a real skill and knowledge of proper biomechanical movements, based on logic and the science of movement.

    James
    What a load of crap.

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    • #47
      What I'm saying is this, try to imagine this because it is hypothetical. If Vanderlavi had a identical twin, genetically the same, with the same gifts and interests like fighting, and one learned Muay Thai and trained hard like he is today, and they other twin learned Wing Chun and trained the same in it with the same intensity, then IMO the one that learned Wing Chun would win in a fight between the two, simply because the Wing Chun art applies it's tools in a more effective and efficient manner. Do you all think that WC does not use the clinch double neck pull that Vanderlavi exibits and uses so effectively in his fights, with knee attacks, elbows and such. It's all there in most of the MA.

      jubaji,
      Your free to think of my comments in anyway you like. Have fun training in what ever art you practice, because you better get used to it, since more than likely as soon as you stop training in it you will lose most of your fighting ability & effectiveness. Most MA need physical attributes like speed, strength and stamina to make them work and reley on them to a high degree, Muay Thai is just one example of a art like this, BJJ or Wing Chun isn't...

      James

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      • #48
        so basically, you're saying that wing chun is better than muay thai? based on what, exactly? your own retarded point of view? what your sifu tells you about how UFC and pride are "fake" and that in in a real fight he would just poke them in the eyes? your task, if you choose to accept it, is to find a wing chun fighter, who uses wing chun techniques to win a fight. any fight. not anecdotal evidence, an actual video clip. and when you find one, ill give you a hundred clips of someone using muay thai to very effectively beat an opponent.

        edit- oh and see how long you last in a BJJ class if you have the cardio of a 50 year old with a food fetish. ALL arts are more effective if you are physically fit. wing chun is no exception.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by sihing
          If Vanderlavi had a identical twin, genetically the same, with the same gifts and interests like fighting, and one learned Muay Thai and trained hard like he is today, and they other twin learned Wing Chun and trained the same in it with the same intensity, then IMO the one that learned Wing Chun would win in a fight between the two, simply because the Wing Chun art applies it's tools in a more effective and efficient manner.
          honestly, people exploit everything so if wing chun really was that much better than muay thai u would for see tons more people using it in mma, but u dont.


          Originally posted by sihing
          Most MA need physical attributes like speed, strength and stamina to make them work and reley on them to a high degree, Muay Thai is just one example of a art like this, BJJ or Wing Chun isn't...
          thats not true either. muay thai doesnt require any of that, its a result of the training. muay thai makes u tenacious and tough the way most other arts dont. thats one of the main reasons it is effective.

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          • #50
            This argument of "but if your art relies on youth itwont be any good when you're old" is a load of nonsense. It presupposes that the "softer" arts DO work. But that premise is questionable indeed.

            Look at any other contact sport. Where are the elderly practitioners that practice a "soft" version and, as such, can still hang with the youngsters? Answer - no-where.

            Of course you're potential will decline with age. Is a fact of life. I'd rather be a high potential Thai Boxer on the way down than a self deceiving Wing Chun theory idjut.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by sihing
              If Vanderlavi had a identical twin, genetically the same, with the same gifts and interests like fighting, and one learned Muay Thai and trained hard like he is today, and they other twin learned Wing Chun and trained the same in it with the same intensity, then IMO the one that learned Wing Chun would win in a fight between the two, simply because
              ...simply because that is your bias and you have so much of your pride invested in wc that you really have no other option than to believe that.

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              • #52
                Textbook Kung-fantasy boy

                Originally posted by sihing

                jubaji,
                You're free to think of my comments in anyway you like. Have fun training in what ever art you practice, because you better get used to it, since more than likely as soon as you stop training in it you will lose most of your fighting ability & effectiveness.

                Thanks so much for the permission and the sage advice. I'll file it in the appropriate location.

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                • #53
                  I was just reminded why I usually don't post on this forum, thanks all for reminding me, LOL.....

                  jubaji,,

                  Real Mature, lol, can't handle a discussion can you. You can believe what ever you want and that's your right of course and I would never take that right away from you, and I have the same rights too correct? It's just a discussion and you start dissing my posts and basically saying I'm F**ked, not very mature if you ask me, so take the boy comment and keep it for yourself....

                  SEE YA......

                  James

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                  • #54
                    pathetic punk

                    Originally posted by sihing
                    I was just reminded why I usually don't post on this forum, thanks all for reminding me, LOL.....

                    Don't feel obligated.

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                    • #55
                      sihing- way to ignore the valid points that everyone else brought up. go back under the bridge, troll.

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                      • #56
                        I already argued my points, everyone disagreed and that's that, no trolling just expressing opinion, free country right!

                        You guys on this forum have to relax a bit, and not take things so personally.....I never said that Muay Thai was shit, I just stated that IMO Wing Chun is has a more effective delivery system...so smoke a joint and take it easyyyyyy.....

                        James

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                        • #57
                          Yes

                          Originally posted by StealthMode
                          i want to know if muay thai is really that good. please tell me more about muay thai. is muay thai just elbow/kneeing/kicking/boxing?
                          Yes, yes it is that good. It also teaches work and striking from the clinch very well.

                          Jubaji- way to stick up for what you believe in. Don't take any crap from all the wanabes out there!

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                          • #58
                            .....I never said that Muay Thai was shit, I just stated that IMO Wing Chun is has a more effective delivery system
                            oh so its only crap in comparison to the almighty wing chun? is that why we so many wing chun techniques used in MMA?

                            face it. you are wrong. an eye poke or groin kick does not make a martial arts system. wing chun has been proven to be shit plenty of times, yet you sit there and claim that its better and more efficient. funny, you owuld imagine that SOMEONE in the MMA business would have noticed this and started using it. but they havent. why? BECAUSE YOU'RE FULL OF SHIT.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Ikken Hisatsu
                              oh so its only crap in comparison to the almighty wing chun? is that why we so many wing chun techniques used in MMA?

                              face it. you are wrong. an eye poke or groin kick does not make a martial arts system. wing chun has been proven to be shit plenty of times, yet you sit there and claim that its better and more efficient. funny, you owuld imagine that SOMEONE in the MMA business would have noticed this and started using it. but they havent. why? BECAUSE YOU'RE FULL OF SHIT.
                              You know yelling leads to higher blood pressure so you should try to stay calm or else long term behaviour like this can affect your health. Interesting that a simple difference of opinion can evoke such hostile feelings towards others. Is over aggressive behaviors taught and sanctioned in the Muay Thai teachings, because it sure is evident here..

                              To each and all who answer this thread from here on, please feel free to disagree with any or all of my comments, this is your right, but so far you still haven't convinced me to change my mind by calling my opinions crap or bullshit. Please, prove your case and tell me why you think Muay Thai is a better delivery system than Wing Chun, I'm eager to learn.

                              James

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                              • #60
                                I think James is getting abum deal. Lets treat hiim with the respect that he shows when giving his view.

                                I still think you're wrong James, and I've studied both. Also where is the actual evidence of WC ever being superior to Thai Boxing in a real go? Thai proves itself for real, whereas WC "proves" itself in theory.....

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