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    I was curious as to how much attention/training/usage is given to punching compared to kicking. Does the art general favor either one, or is it about 50/50?

  • #2
    <3 kicks, fcuk punching, I just use it as a distraction

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    • #3
      Originally posted by CLM
      I was curious as to how much attention/training/usage is given to punching compared to kicking. Does the art general favor either one, or is it about 50/50?

      I would assume as much a/t/u as you put in, no?

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      • #4
        I think kicking and kneeing's WWAAYY better then punching.. At least for me it is.

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        • #5
          Reason I ask is that I'd like to develop more close quarter techniques similar to boxing, but I don't want to neglect kicking. Granted, kicking is a powerful asset, but mosty if you can use it to your advanage. I know a guy who's prety tall, may be 6'3 or 6'4, but he has really long legs. Getting into a kicking match with him is not a good idea, which is part of the reason I've started working on punching a little bit more.

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          • #6
            concentrate on boxing only as much as u can. the more u can rely on your 2 hands only, the better because many times u wont be able to use kicks well. what if the street or floor is slippery, or you are wearing some heavy dress shoes, or restrictive clothing? or if ur in a crowded area? sometimes the conditons just wont allow it, and the more u can do with your 2 hands alone the better. kicks can be devastating, however they can also compromise your balance. solid boxing skills are more reliable i than kicking.

            i make sure to work on boxing individually to supplement my muay thai training.

            just spar a few rounds of boxing only, then do some kickboxing.

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            • #7
              The right tool for the right job. But you need have those tools and employ them skillfully. I work on boxing also (and don't plan on slowing down). A friend gave me a video of fights recorded off of tv in Thailand. Watching the fighters and how close they get you can really tell their boxing game is seriously lacking. They are easily within or almost within hands range, and both have their hands down and are just pounding eachother with slow kicks. Any good boxer could have taken those guys out I think, either by striking while the hands were down (oh so many chances, nearly limitless) or closing the gap and striking. Later in the video was something about one Thai who actually did work on his boxing game. He would throw a left hook then right uppercut, over and over and over. And it worked. Really well (against other Thais). I felt that just proved my point. Of course, you also have to be in excellent shape, conditioned, and mastered knees, elbows, and kicks (and moving around, etc), but don't forget your boxing I think. Anyway, that's all just my opinion so you know about the salt...

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              • #8
                Good point elfunko.

                I've dabbled in both and spend a little more time working on my boxing; I am just barely functional with my boxing skills and can't really hit that hard.

                Anyhow, I've sparred with a couple ranked amateur muay thai guys and have found that I can work decently in the boxing range - so long as I don't forget that we are allowing kicks and knees, make the mistake of bobbing and weaving and getting impailed on a knee...

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                • #9
                  We concentrate a lot on boxing, and Ajarn Chai also concentrates on it quite a bit. He saw that western boxing was being successful against the thai fighters, and so he has concentrated on it more and more. At the seminars we usually spend the first half of day 1 on boxing. It never hurts to be good at any skill in the ring, it'll only hurt when you are bad at them. Also, as fights go into later rounds, the better boxer will prevail, because the energy for kicking has diminished.

                  Knees and elbows are better than boxing in real life situations, and are very effective in the ring when allowed, but elbows are seldomly allowed other than in thailand. I would rather throw my right elbow than straight right punch when I'm bare knuckled.

                  I have seen, and been the recipient of some beatings by better boxers, if they get in fast, they can take you down quickly.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Elfunko
                    The right tool for the right job. But you need have those tools and employ them skillfully. I work on boxing also (and don't plan on slowing down). A friend gave me a video of fights recorded off of tv in Thailand. Watching the fighters and how close they get you can really tell their boxing game is seriously lacking. They are easily within or almost within hands range, and both have their hands down and are just pounding eachother with slow kicks. Any good boxer could have taken those guys out I think, either by striking while the hands were down (oh so many chances, nearly limitless) or closing the gap and striking. Later in the video was something about one Thai who actually did work on his boxing game. He would throw a left hook then right uppercut, over and over and over. And it worked. Really well (against other Thais). I felt that just proved my point. Of course, you also have to be in excellent shape, conditioned, and mastered knees, elbows, and kicks (and moving around, etc), but don't forget your boxing I think. Anyway, that's all just my opinion so you know about the salt...
                    In Thailand, if they got their hands down it is because they think they are in control (which sometimes is not true ). It is something like Roy Jone Jr. vs James Tony. If you just concentrate on punching you might get a counter attack from elbowing or kneeing. Not so easy man! You cannot use just 2 hands against a really skillful muaythai fighter because it means you are gonna eat a lot of knees, high & low kicks and elbows.

                    In muaythai history, there have been many great punchers as well as many great kickers, elbowers and kneelers. The lack of muaythai puchers is due to merely the scoring system and gambling. The old version of the art was actually an MMA sport until one was dead. The gloves were used instead of rope and the groud game in muaythai was missing since then.

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                    • #11
                      You use whatever is availabe and don't neglect anything to chance, but also you use what your best at too. I remember watching some fights from Thailand on Espn and one of the thais was from a Fairtex gym and he had the better hands and the announcer said the Fairtex gym concentrates on a little more boxing in their gyms. I mean the guy was kicking, knees and everything it's justs he had good hands too.

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                      • #12
                        There's punching in Thai? it is mostly a distraction or a way of getting into clinch.

                        Mullins

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