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    Is there a belt system or other student ranking in MuayThai like there is in other martial arts? (example: black belt = expert)

  • #2
    There are lots of topics on this already, however a succinct answer would be:

    Traditionally, "the belt is in the ring" as the expression goes. It's a practical meritocracy of sorts. You win enough fights, you can get the belt (theoretically).

    In the West, many schools have adopted a ranking system that varies from association to association, and school to school. Some have coloured praciat, some have coloured shorts, etc.

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    • #3
      I understand that the belt is WON in MuayThai but i was wondering is some gyms use a student ranking to seperate the beginners from the more advanced fighters. and if so what is that ranking, shorts, arm bands?

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      • #4
        In my school we use colored sashes worn around the waist. That is for the people studying it more for an M.A. and not strictly on the fight team. The fighters have much shinier belts. Although many of us test for advancement as well. It is nice to have some way to chart prgress and it feels good to earn a new rank.

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        • #5
          The answer is no... Traditional Muay Thai does not have a belt system. Some schools have adopted a belt system so their students can feel better about them selves. Like the man said the belt is for the ring.

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          • #6
            ...and some people use sounding off in an authoritative way online to make them feel beter about themselves.

            I believe Octavious did well to explain the traditional way and what is sometimes happening in the west. The cool part was he didn't sound like a dick.

            My school happens to use a sash to show advancement. Not only does it "make you feel better about yourself" but it is a good goal to focus on for people not involved in fighting.

            I was looking for some pictures of thai people in sashes online that I had seen before and I found this. It is just about exactly how ours go. Ours go white (nothing), yellow, blue, red, silver, high silver, gold.

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            • #7
              Tht

              Thanks for that, i agree with some type of goal oriented system

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              • #8
                at my gym, (in perth, australia) we use a system of singlets, order is white-yellow-orange-blue-green-brown-red(i think)-then black and then tips
                after you get up to orange you need to go for state grading. where all the muay thai associations send their students for grading. i thinks its a good system as said before, as people can set goals and increase confidence, etc.

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                • #9
                  Ranks

                  I can see how it frustrates some people that many Western schools have adopted a Western style grading system for Muay Thai. It rings of McDojo fear that many students have, brought about by what has happened with TMA's in the past. I have to admit, although it's never happened to me, I would cringe a little bit at first if someone told me they had a "black belt" in Muay Thai. However, that being said...

                  What many people forget is that here in the West (where I am currently writing from) the majority of Muay Thai practitioners are not fighters. Yet, many of them are still in it for the love of the sport, and train as hard as their everyday lives allow them. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. As such, it doesn't hurt to have a goal orientated system in place that rewards their dedication to a sport we all love.

                  At the gym I teach at, we have a phase system of 1 through 4. This is a way that we can categorize our students, monitor there progress, and make sure that the information we are giving them corresponds with their ability. This is completely exogenous to our fighters. Those who wish to fight have to jump through entirely different hoops. There is a strict workout regiment that serves the purpose of turning out fighters, not regular Western Muay Thai practitioners.

                  I think from a business, cultural, and efficiency standpoint, it would be a mistake not to implement some sort of grading system when running a class based Muay Thai program in the West. Running a fighters program however is a different story. That being said... it's just my opinion.

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                  • #10
                    a fairly valid one tho. if it keeps people going maybe my club needs to run a grading system.

                    from a personal point of view, i dont want a black belt in muay thai. ive had someone tell me theyve got one and i laughed in their face. cos a black belt, as well as not fitting very well with shorts, just means to me that their clubs got confused.

                    im at a club, where im near the bottom of the pile in the advanced class. my target is to be better than the instructor, preferably by october 06. thats more blind optimism than arrogance, i dont mind having unattainable goals to work towards. just means i dont need to come up with new targets for myself.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by seppuku
                      im at a club, where im near the bottom of the pile in the advanced class. my target is to be better than the instructor, preferably by october 06. thats more blind optimism than arrogance, i dont mind having unattainable goals to work towards. just means i dont need to come up with new targets for myself.

                      there is a lot to be said for attainable goals though. I know, shoot for the stars hit the moon... but without ever actually achieving something in a reasonable amount of time most peolpe get frustrated. I would suggest that you focus on being better than the next better person than you and so on... till you reach the instructors level. Then find someone better than him to teach you.

                      Reaching a goal is often as or more motivating than setting it in the first place. Just my advice. Use it if it makes sense.

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