Wild Swinger

[Abe]

Hi guys, went back to training again after exams. Monday had 30 mins sparring session with different partners, felt ok apart from a lil loss of timing. Until i came across one guy who has about more or less same level of exp, and a bit of weight advantage (less than the others). He does go a lil too hard for sparring, usually we were told to let the other know if we them to take it easy but i decide to go ahead. then i found myself constantly on guard and move backwards, evetually i took the first shot, a solid hook to the jaw and we paused for a sec with "are you alright?", then continue on. more and more landed and i swear i didnt know what to do, kicks fail as he just keeps moving forward and bombard me left right and centre with punches, mainly haymaker hooks, tried to stand and trade but i was gasped out already from hits... well i basically got hammered.

This is what i want to know, what should i do with a fighter like that? since i heard of many people who train losing to people who don't from wild hooks and soccer kicks, etc. i kind of get the feeling that in the begining this would happen because we havent master our techniques enough and know exactly when and how to use them, and often left a little stunned in fights. could this be true?

also, basically all of my opponent has about 10 to even 40 kg on me and if some decide to go a lil hard (only a couple so far) should i continue? not be a 'hero' but i just thought this could be good time for conditioning?

[gabbah]

When you back up, only back up one or two steps then stop and nail him with a straight punch, either a stiff jab or a cross. This will work good if he likes to come in swinging, and is open for straight punches. You must use proper technique when doing this, so your head is protected from his hooks. So keep your other hand protecting the side of your head, and the shoulder of your punching arm close to your chin. Keep the chin tucked in.
This is just text book stuff that you must train while you shadowbox for instance.
When you have nailed him (or hit his guard), rotate to the left or right side of him. This requires that you have the footwork skill needed. If you nail him you can hit him a few times more before rotating out of the line of fire.

Another suggestion is stand pretty much still, and teep him in the solar plexus with your front leg as he charges in to hit you.
This requires balance, timing and that you have trained to do a fast high teep of course.

oh, and to answer you other question: Yes I think that in the beginning, when your technique is not so good and you haven't sparred very much, aggression will win. But as you get better you will be able to find many openings on guys who just come in agressive with poor technique. So just be patient and try to perfect the techniques you know.

[BoarSpear]

Damn misleading thread titles.....

[gabbah]

Damn misleading thread titles.....

Hehe, well Boarspear, there ARE sites for people like you... they might have what you're looking for.

[Abe]

Thanks gabbah. Yea, guess it's just another case of practise makes perfect. It's just so hard to beat an aggressive fighter who's done about the same amount of training.

[gabbah]

Thanks gabbah. Yea, guess it's just another case of practise makes perfect. It's just so hard to beat an aggressive fighter who's done about the same amount of training.

yeah, well while he's focusing on being offensive, you can practise your defense. Keep doing this and he will have a harder time actually hitting anything else than your guard or shin blocks. Eventually you will be able to read him like a book and then you can setup the perfect counters. Just be patient. Having a good defense is a valuable skill.
So he might be "winning" when you sparr right now, but you may be the one who is actually learning more, and it will pay off in the future.

[Abe]

Yea, as i always believed sparring is to perfect techniques and movements, got pad work for power and my trainer for conditioning haha

[Kyoshu]

Hey Abe,

have you tried guarding up and tying him up or going into clinch?

i.e. Form the wall, step in to clinch/plumb when he comes in, twist, push, follow up with high/ low kick & low/high left hook.

I'm usually shorter than most guys I spar. I practice timing a short over-hand right at the same time as I dip to my left. I can usually avoid getting hit by a left or right hook and it also helps you set up a left body shot.

Also, throwing a convincing feint or teep kick can stuff up your partners timing and allow you to throw a 2nd phase combo to follow up.

Anyways, my 2c.

Oscar

[jubaji]

When you back up, only back up one or two steps .

Or more importantly, don't back up in a straight line.

[Tant01]

Or more importantly, don't back up in a straight line.

Yeah that!

Brewer has posted a good bit of boxing tips in the BOXING tips...

search it.

[gabbah]

Or more importantly, don't back up in a straight line.

Yeah, that requires better footwork. You should train that too of course, to back up at angles.
But my advice to back up straight was to lure him in, so that he comes at you with some speed. That way when you suddenly stop and throw your right cross at him... WHAM, he walks right into it.

Anyway, footwork is the key.

[george stando]

A wild swinger who is powerful and has a streetfighters type of broken rythym is very hard to fight. But you have to answer fire with fire, whether you shift out and use footwork or not, you have to fire back into him, so he thinks twice and hesitates on his committment. Faking to draw him to committment, then using a angle cut or footwork slide to counter might work since you know what kind of fighter he is. But like I said if he doesnt respect the counter you give him, he will redouble his efforts back at you.