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Originally posted by GonzoStyles
I have heard of baht being thrown, though I've never witnessed it myself. Oh, and one day I, too, will make it into one of the Stadiums....
...also as a specator!
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Ah... I wasn't aware of that, but like I said, not surprising in the least. Thai's will literally place a bet at the drop of a hat.... ON the drop of the hat! LOFL!
I have heard of baht being thrown, though I've never witnessed it myself. Oh, and one day I, too, will make it into one of the Stadiums....
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I have been taught 3 different Ram Muay's that are derived from the Ramakien. I have seen two Krabi Krabong Ram Muay's performed. Apart from "general" similarities (Wai Kru, dancing to the four directions, some of the 'dance steps') I can't say that they're alike.Originally posted by GonzoStyles
Depending on how traditional your MuayThai coach is, much of MuayThai includes focus on the traditions, rituals, and even meditation. My own personal coaches have mostly just "touched" upon it, but another friend of mine trained under a coach that regularly had students meditate.
I'm not very familiar with Krabi-Krabong. One of my students and one of my coaches sons both took Krabi-Krabong. I have seen live demo's, and even read about it a little, but I don't know the correct names for the weapons sets. I know that Krabi-Krabong roughly translates to "Sword - Staff".....Comment
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oops, double postComment
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thanks Khun Kao
What you said about your fights in Philly explains everything. That particular problem was dealt with years ago. As far as throwing baht goes, when I first went to Thailand in 1972, fighters at that time still fought for free, and then would run through the crowd where people would push money into their mouths. Sometimes, if a fighter lost but fought way above his head, he would make more money than the victor. I really think no Thai would actually throw the baht, because it has a picture of the King on it and no one would want to see it hit the floor. As far as krabi-krabong goes, there are many, many wai kru; depending on the weapon and/or the situation/performance. It is very complicated. My instructor told me krabi means short and krabong means long, so krabi-krabong means short & long weapon art. At the same time, staffs were referred to as krabong and swords krabi. But, as Dan Inosanto said in 1983: "Out of confusion comes knowledge." And from a purely tactical point-of-view, I once watched Pirinya fight, and his wai kru was 14 minutes long; he combed his hair, applied lipstick and makeup (figuratively, of course) and so infuriated his opponent it was a quick and easy victory for the Ladyman.Comment
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Korp Kun Kop for the replys!! I have read on these forums about a Krabi-Krabong teacher in my homestate of Texas, I beleive I read he studied at the Buddhi Sawan but teaches only select students. when I get back home I will try and take some good pics of the Krabi and dagger set I purchased to put in another post. also just wanted to say how lucky i got, I work on the road and I found a new Thai resteraunt in the town I am working in and low and behold the first time I go in to try it there are fights on asian sat tv!! dont know if I posted that elsewhere its possible I was so happy!! thanks again for the replys!!Comment
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Something I forgot
I meant to put this in my last post. While I was living with the Sirisute family in '94 and '95, when the fights came on TV Master Chai's father and I would adjourn to the living room to watch. He would watch the wai kru, tell me who would win, then wander off to get some tea or coffee. He never was wrong in the time I was there. I cannot explain it, other than to say maybe this is why Master Chai is the martial artist he is. But then, this is not a thread about religion, is it?Comment
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Well, your observations have nothing to do with religion. Your performance of the Ram Muay is indicative of the way you fight.
In one of my 2 matches where my opponent and I each performed a Ram Muay, the fight officials were from Thailand. I was told that after watching my opponent and I performing our Ram Muay's, that one of the Thai officials predicted I would win by KO....
...I won by 1st round Knockout. Go figureComment
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further thoughts....
I used to believe that the merely watching the WAY someone performed their Ram Muay was the indicating factor in the fight. Watching how smooth someone moves, their balance and strength as they dance.... their focus.
I have since learned that though this is a very important element, that isn't all there is to it. Watch the Ram Muay itself! The actual movements within the Ram Muay are often indicative of the style of Muay Thai the fighter has trained in. I've only learned about picking out a few small facets, but there is much more to it than that....
It makes sense! MuayThai evolved from a wide variety of bareknuckle arts that, though similar, had different philosophies and techniques. Also in MuayThai, each gym has its own Ram Muay. The Ram Muay is most often based upon the epic Ramakien which tells a story. Each gym performs parts of the story that are indicative of their individual style....
For instance, one of the 3 systems of MuayThai that I train under is heavily based upon the older bareknuckle fighting style. The name of the gym/style is Narkradam, the Black Dragon. If memory serves me correctly, the Black Dragon was charged by Buddha to be a protector or guardian. I'm willing to bet that if you were to fully analyze both the story and the style, you would see the similarities. If you were to then know the Ramakien and Ram Muay's, you'd be able to identify a fighters "style" and have a good idea of what kind of strategy to use.....
Sorry, I kind of rambled through thatComment
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one last thing....
The only problem with the above is that there is now a lot more 'cross-training' where fighters will fight under different coaches and gyms. Gyms are no longer a 'closed' family-unit type environment. Fighters, trainers, and coaches may come and go, so the "purity" of the individual styles is slowly diminishing...
...maybe quicklyComment
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Hey Thanks for all the help guys found a great place and take classes every monday and wensday. Its called Nguyen's International Martial Arts Academy, looks pretty nice and they will train you for UFC, which i would like to try eventually i have so much more to learn still tho so thats down the road.Comment
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