Master Toddy's fighter records BS!!

[GonzoStyles]

I hope that one day things will be as Chalambok describes,

but I think alot of the talk about Master Toddy is from people who envy his success or have another agenda (other promoters)

anyone who knows the fight game will tell you that records are a funny thing
losses disappear or are turned into "no contests" and this goes for western boxing and MMA as well

As far as respected by people in Thailand, while I trained there, I remember 2 ministers from Thailand coming to visit the gym along with officials from one of the boxing organizations and the Nevada state athletic commision.

Melchor Menor was the first American fighter invited to fight in the Kings birthday celebration. Since he was initially trained by M Toddy
That to me suggests SOME degree of recognition in Thailand.

Saekson Janjira's gym sends fighters to Master Toddys promotions

Master Toddy has been promoting Muay Thai in the US since the mid 90's and was the first promoter of womens Muay Thai in the US.

I could go one but I would just be repeating the events I described earlier in this post.
I would like to thank everyone who maintained some degree of civility even those whose opinions drastically differ from mine.

[GonzoStyles]

double post

[thaigrrrl]

I think envy that he is successful, yes, having a big gym and name is nice, but at what price? Manipulation, deceit, lies? It is fine, yes he builts the sport here, but look how many don't support him that did. Not because he profits, but they way he profits. Saekson is a friend of his too, one of the only Thai trainers who is. Why is that? Camps interacting with Toddy are all affiliated with him. They owe him.

[GonzoStyles]

I have spoke my peace on this and said enough, I am not going into the
"he said she said" gossip that does no one anygood.


Master Toddy helped with Osacr DelaHoyas Golden boy promotions
"Mexico vrs Thailand" fightcard in Tuscon, I guess he must owe M. Toddy as well..........