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  • #16
    Originally posted by Leo Daher View Post
    Khun Kao, nice post. I'd be interested in your comments on using elbows against a boxer.

    Thanks in advance,

    Leo
    Yeah same here.

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    • #17
      I would also like to hear about using elbows against boxers...




      What if the opponent uses fast,1-2-3-4 punches? Whats your best bet against a fast opponent? Legs im sure...but anything on using fists/elbows against him?

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      • #18
        A lot would depend on what type of Muay Thai fighter you are,ie do you prefer to kick a lot? high or low? a good kicking stretegy is to kick the upper arms of a boxer to weaken them,then you can time the body kick easier(trick name khun suk tae taun).

        If you are a Nak Muay that prefers to use the long knee(tang kow) then you must have a good tight guard and protect the face when you move forward to knee,use the knee to the body,solar plexus and bladder area till the head falls then knee to the head,also flying knee can be effective to get close.

        If you are a clincher,a good strategy is to kick the boxers legs to stop the side to side/in and out footwork and keep the opponent in front of you,tiip him back to the ropes or cut of the ring with good footwork(dern muay)then go for the clinch positions,hold the boxer tightly around the upper head area(not neck) elbows tight in on opponents chest,bury your own head in tight to your own arms,dont look up look(or you may catch a swing to the head)look at the body where you will knee,and proceed to step back and knee several times,try to keep opponent of balance and dont let him get out of your grip.

        The use of the elbow is hard to explain in words unless you understand Muay Thai already but basically smother or parry the jab or cross and elbow while moving in,against hooks use the tat mala technique for defence/offence and use sawk fan naa to catch the opponents chin,woah so many things you can do against a boxer,main thing NOT to do is get hit hard on the chin or liver!

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Bjjexpertise@be View Post
          Thanks for all the advice guys. Should I try to avoid throwing hands with him all together?
          No. Unless your handskills realy suck. Or unless you don't know how to combine strikes and kicks.

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          • #20
            clinch them, kicking doesnt beat punching but its a good long range weapon to keep them out of range a bit. clinch them and they wont know whats going on so much, kicking range is so close to punching range and ultimately they can cclose the gap too easily.
            the standard defense against a boxer is the clinch, elbow knee from there with some punches perhaps along the way.
            the key to entering the clinch is to not try to make some elaborate set up, this for sure wont work against a boxer. its to go in well defended and aggressively and take the clinch to them.

            But do remember that thai boxing includes boxing, all of western boxing. so they can/should be able to punch. one of the thai boxers i train with at the moment is also a professional boxer and another is a highly ranked amatuer boxer as well as stadium champion in thai boxing. so in the end....a few years down the line, a thai boxer should be able to compete with a boxer in the ring.

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            • #21
              Well to keep him from getting in close to my face with his fists, i should use the teet.


              This guy im fighting also likes to takedown and lack of better term 'wrestle'.

              Anything i can do to maybe stop a take down? or to stay on my feet? I was thinking a flying knee could help if i time it right...like if i see him charge.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Caveman View Post
                Well to keep him from getting in close to my face with his fists, i should use the teet.


                This guy im fighting also likes to takedown and lack of better term 'wrestle'.

                Anything i can do to maybe stop a take down? or to stay on my feet? I was thinking a flying knee could help if i time it right...like if i see him charge.
                yeah, knock him out. lol

                and its teep not teet, teet is a nipple, unless thats what you meant lol

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                • #23
                  I didn't mean to put teet. i knew it was teep. for some reason i put teet...weird. lol

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by fire cobra View Post
                    A lot would depend on what type of Muay Thai fighter you are,ie do you prefer to kick a lot? high or low? a good kicking stretegy is to kick the upper arms of a boxer to weaken them,then you can time the body kick easier(trick name khun suk tae taun).
                    I think the best strategy is to keep the kicks low. Boxers aren't used to defending below the waist. Going for a leg and wearing it down seems like the best strategy, unless the boxer has really strong legs.

                    A boxer worth his weight should be able to move in quickly on a kickboxer and put him out quickly. The speed, agility, and use of the hands early on could get the kickboxer off balance. You've got be quick and get your kicks in fast. If you are a clincher then you've probably got a little bit of an advantage over other kickboxers.

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                    • #25
                      Kicking low is good if a guy is moving about imho,however if he is coming forward punching it is better to kick the body/arms again imho,that certainly sems to be the prefered kicking strategy against a puncher in Thailand nowadays.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by fire cobra View Post
                        Kicking low is good if a guy is moving about imho,however if he is coming forward punching it is better to kick the body/arms again imho,that certainly sems to be the prefered kicking strategy against a puncher in Thailand nowadays.
                        If he is punching, you could use kicks to parry his blows, but you've got to take the offense or you'll just be relegated to a defensive posture. Putting those legs over your waist long term will wear them out. You'll tire much faster than than the boxer. That's why I think using the legs to parry punches then keeping the boxer off guard by kicking low is a better strategy. Of course, everyone has different talents so you have to play to those. If you are good at kicks aimed at the head then that should probably be your entry.

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                        • #27
                          Just destroy their lead leg with inside and outside thigh kicks. Throw a jab at their face to get them thinking about hands then chop down with your right leg. Or just disable their weapons all together by clinching them, then just go to work with knees and elbows.


                          Originally posted by WildWest. View Post
                          I've sparred with a boxer or 2 at our MT club.
                          What gym you from WildWest? I'm from Zero Tolerance in Napier

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                          • #28
                            send video or photos it will help me figure out what you talking about i sorry i having trouble i learning disabled can you help me out

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                            • #29
                              kicking is not usually sufficient against a boxer.
                              especially if you are on the defensive. punching beats kicking almost always if all other things are equal, please dont anyone post baukaw clips as he doesnt fight boxers.

                              low kicking would be your long range strategy, you will most likely lose though if you maintain this and you must take the offensive posture and go for the clinch, where you will most likely win, all things being fairly equal otherwise.

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                              • #30
                                could someone e-mail me phots or reply here on what your talking about it will hep me know what yourtalking about and how it is doen from matt blake

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