Men Vs Women

[J-Luck]

I disagree. The difference is not in intelligence, but in perception.

My point is that spatial and mechanical intelligence is more highly developed in men. It's well known amongst psycologists(those who are qualified to interpret and determine the functions of intelligence). Women are lacking in those areas, and therefore have less potential/practical ability, as a whole. Has nothing to do with perception.

Don't take it as an attack though. Women have been proven to have higher levels of intelligence in other areas, though areas not affecting martial arts.

[jubaji]

Did you read my post man. The same. The only "difference" would be the bone structure which is basically something you cannot change by working out. A man and a woman can have the same amount of muscle mass and in this hypathetical case, imagine they do.

Please read the post before you vote.

So, your high school doesn't teach anatomy until after the freshman year then?

[treelizard]

[QUOTE=J-Luck;272769]My point is that spatial and mechanical intelligence is more highly developed in men.
/QUOTE]

I was wondering whether you really think that people with high levels of spatial and mechanical intelligence would be better fighters.

Just how much spatial and mechanical intelligence is necessary to, say, kick a bag?

[Little Apple]

Oh ha ha Garland.

I think this: It really depends on the person, I've seen people who learn fast and have great technique, but have little to no fighting ability (be it from timing, agressiveness, or whatever). I've also seen the reverse, and everything in between, and from both genders no less. Having said that, guys seem to want to fight more, numbers-wise. Not sure if that points out some kind of pre-disposition or not, but there it is.

[nails]

its a hard question to answer. i think the majority of what is said in this thread is true as far as men and women in general(well except crap about attitude and mindset, I dont think anyone can say what is generally true in that respect- unless you are psychic ). My gut reaction to this thread is 'which man? which woman?" because biological features vary so much from person to person its impossible to say without looking at it on an individual level. if you want to say a typical male vs typical female i would bet on the guy, but like everything in life there is considerable grey area because not every woman is going to be like most woman, and ditto for the men. I think my family's genes are a big reason i have this opinion, the women on my mothers side have bodies with broad shoulders and narrow hips, and gain and keep muscle much more easily than most women. im sure weve all seen skinny guys who have a very hard time gaining muscle too. The fact that most women are just plain smaller than most men makes a big difference, its just not possible to gain the sheer amount of muscle tissue that a larger person can. Most women have advantages in other sports, so its nothing to get angry over. Most womens biological characteristics are a huge advantage in some situations (famine and endurance type challenges in particular) and not in others. I believe strongly that this has nothing to do with one sex being 'better' than the other, these things are advantages or disadvatages depending entirely on the situation where they are applied. just my 2 cents.

[GonzoStyles]

On just a bit of a tangent........

when introducing new people to water ski sports (wakeboarding/wakesurfing) in the process of getting pulled up the first time out, we have a 100% success rate with women who have never been pulled behind a ski boat, men it would be about 60%. I don't know if it is a center of gravity issue, or more of a mental issue but thats just the way it goes.

[treelizard]

What's the common denominator for women who beat men in Thaiboxing?

http://www.womenkickboxing.com/fettkether_pittman.htm

http://www.womenkickboxing.com/male_femalebouts.htm

Elmont vs. Philemon

http://www.killer-queen.nl/video.html#

[J-Luck]

[QUOTE=treelizard;273162]

My point is that spatial and mechanical intelligence is more highly developed in men.
/QUOTE]

I was wondering whether you really think that people with high levels of spatial and mechanical intelligence would be better fighters.

Just how much spatial and mechanical intelligence is necessary to, say, kick a bag?

A great deal, indeed. And of course, as we both know, hitting a pad is merely the start. Two moving people, with some training, the intelligence comes into play even more so. And with grappling, forget it.

[J-Luck]

seriously... women do much worse in spatial reasoning tasks and mental rotation tasks than men...

but men seem to have worser (lol) verbal acuity, and don't do as well as women in solving formulaic mathematical problems...(but we tend to do better at solving novel math problems...with the exception of myself...if it has numbers, it may as well be greek)

Spanks for supporting my arguement with outside sources. I'm usually too lazy to SHOW why I'm right, I figure, why waste my time if I'm right? lol.

And just as there are exeptional women in the area of spacial and mechanical intelligence, there are men who happen to test higher in areas traditionally dominated by women. We are merely speaking in generic terms.

[Tompa1234]

Ofcourse the man would win, if you think a woman would win you´re .....not very smart hehe.

Men are faster, stronger and have better reflexes than woman. Just look at games like Counter Strike, men totaly dominates that game and that should prove that men have better reflexes than woman.

I don´t think that I have to explain why men are faster and stronger...

[J-Luck]

Ofcourse the man would win, if you think a woman would win you´re .....not very smart hehe.

Men are faster, stronger and have better reflexes than woman. Just look at games like Counter Strike, men totaly dominates that game and that should prove that men have better reflexes than woman.

I don´t think that I have to explain why men are faster and stronger...

After arguments put forth by Mike, Tim, Excessive, Garland, and myself, I'm not sure why you would even imput with something so trivial.

[treelizard]

seriously... women do much worse in spatial reasoning tasks and mental rotation tasks than men...

but men seem to have worser (lol) verbal acuity, and don't do as well as women in solving formulaic mathematical problems...(but we tend to do better at solving novel math problems...with the exception of myself...if it has numbers, it may as well be greek)

Don't forget that women perform better on memory tests and have much higher fine motor skill ability.

[Tompa1234]

After arguments put forth by Mike, Tim, Excessive, Garland, and myself, I'm not sure why you would even imput with something so trivial.

Hey I just wanted to state my opinion, that men beat woman in almost any kind of sport, physical/skill/reflex demanding.

[GonzoStyles]

(from the MMA Mongolian wrestling thread)
why do Mongolian wrestlers wear sleeves but no jackets?

[GonzoStyles]

Just look at games like Counter Strike, men totaly dominates that game and that should prove that people who play alot of Counter Strike don't go outside very often

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