Running before or after workout?

[savast79]

Hello everybody,

I've checked out several websites from Thailand that give hard core training for people who want to get phsically fit, but more commonly to fight in a match. I noticed many of the daily routines involve a 4-6 mile warmup run first thing early in the morning and then starts muay thai sparring. Being that muay thai is an anearobic sport why isn't sparring/light weight lifting be the first on the agenda rather than running.

I've read men's magazine and they've always mentioned to do weight lifting first to burn off the carbs then follow it up with running to burn off the fat.

[..n..]

My approach has been to use running to ensure a general level of fitness. Considering the level of conditioning that is needed to be in “good shape” running 3-4 miles at a good pace isn’t that far off for a good starting aerobic benchmark. There will be plenty of focus on anaerobic, and aerobic/anaerobic, conditioning as well. Although many aspects of MT can be considered anaerobic the recovery periods you have between anaerobic bursts will be of most benefit if you have a good aerobic base. For myself, running prior to training makes it harder for me to recover. The real benefit comes when I train w/o running prior. In contrast I am faster, better conditioned, and feel lighter.

[Tom Yum]

If you build up to it, the 4-6 mile morning run really will just be a warm-up to the rest of the days activities.

If you're an occasional runner or not in good shape, that run will take alot of steam out of you.

[aseepish]

One reason why the Thais run in the early morning - it's too frickin' hot after 7 am!

Weight-lifting should be last - training speed and precision in technique should come before that.

Running is about more than building cardio - it's about conditioning your legs to take punishment.

[fire cobra]

I doubt if the pro Muay Thai boxers in Thailand know about or even care if they run before or after training(or about anerobic/aerobic training),they care more about regular and consistent running,bag work,pad work,clinching and fighting.

[aseepish]

Check out Tim Mousel's post in this thread.

http://www.defend.net/deluxeforums/jeet-kune-do-discussion-forum/27862-jkd-distance-running.html

[Marksmarkou]

If its a weights workout, its best to run after aso as you dont use up all your energy for the weights.

Again i would run after a martial arts training session also. The reason being, running does not require much thought and focus. Use up this focus on your tehnqiue training and run after to burn extra calories or build your stamina, which ever your goal is.

[glendanfig]

anyone have ne adivce on some good cross training shoes, for running both indoor and outdoor(cross country sometimes even) as well was bike riding(off road too)?
im looking to buy a pair of good running shoes and i need them to fit the many diffrernt roles that will be required of them.
thanks in advance