Muay thai OR

[Green Magoon]

Hi I am thinking about muay thai. Does anyone know a place near Portland/Beaverton Oregon?

I'm a girl... does that matter? thanks.

[terry]

I know of several people into Muay Thai in the Portland area. There are probably others, but this may be a place to start.

Mike Walrath, Eugene
Excellent 1970s Chaffey College student/instructor under Ajarn Chai that recently had a leison on his spine that put him in a wheelchair. He walks with a cane now and still teaches.
Thai Boxing. Assoc--Eugene Branch
911 River Road
Eugene, OR 97404 Chief Instructor:
Mike Walrath
(541) 607-7033

Ray Guin
Student of Mike Walrath's that has become a superb flyweight fighter/trainer in his own right. I'm not sure of how to contact him, but Mike Walrath would know. I think he's in the Salem area. Ray trains guys for the ring and has been looking pretty sharp these days. Well, okay, he bobbed 'n weaved in one recent fight and got knocked out with a knee to the face, but hey, he's a fighter.

Leonard Trigg, Tigard/Portland
6'8" boxer. Very good boxing coach. I haven't seen him teach Muay Thai but he is certified to teach
Applied Philosophical Arts Institute
Box 230182
Portland, OR 97281-0182 Chief Instructor:
Leonard Trigg
(503) 590-1667

Steve Wilson
Lives in the Portland area and teaches Muay Thai/Kabri-kabrong, the Thai weapons/battlefield art from which Muay Thai was born. Holds a very senior rank in Kabri-Kabrong, if not the highest ranking guy in the U.S., and trained at Buddhai Sawan under Ajarn Sumai himself. Is also a longtime student of Ajarn Chai Sirisute. AKA Chalambok on this forum.

John Daniels
Lives in Portland area and has students who are active on this forum. See William. I believe his status in Muay Thai may be inactive, but he remains active in Kali & Jun Fan.

Your gender doesn't matter so much as your size. If you train with people who are much larger than you I would recommend you make sure that they are advanced. It is no fun to get thrashed by a bonehead who has 150 pounds on you. An advanced guy won't do that but can throttle down the force to your size and still push you forward with some intensity. The balance isn't always easy to find in a beginner.

Terry

[terry]

Steve Wilson, could you send me your updated contact information so I can post it on the TBA web site?

Thx,

Terry

[chalambok]

Portland OR Muay Thai

hi Green Magoon, about muay Thai in the Portland/Beaverton area: you are going to have to look pretty hard. I am in the Oregon City area, and work out primarily with Dan Burke at his home/gym, but have taught off and on for about 6 years various students in the Beaverton area. Usually if someone can get a partner to be there I will come to their location and teach for $10 apiece per class. I seek more to promote/teach Thai National Martial Arts than to get rich, I drive an armored car to pay my bills. Bill Schultz used to live in Beaverton (a student of John Bruce Daniels) but has recently moved to Rhode Island. There are several poser schools around, some actually advertise they teach muay Thai but none of them have any authorization or certification from any organization. One large school on MLK asked me not to come back during their Thai Boxing class and all I wanted was a place to work out; evidently the instructor (lol) felt threatened. So anyway, if you want to work out with me find a partner so it will be affordable and email me, Chalambok at aol or yahoo or hotmail. If you are rich I will be more than happy to teach you privately at my rate of $40 per hour (as per instructions from Master Chai). Good luck, skip rope all the time and start jogging-Steve Wilson

[William]

I would highly recomend training with Ajarn Wilson. I spent about 2-1/2 years or so training with him (he can correct me if I'm wrong on that). I also set up a co-worker (Vanesa) to do some training with Steve until she moved away. She always said she enjoyed it very much.
I also spent over five years training with Guro Daniels until I moved away. He teaches Muay Thai as well but is more focused on Kali and JKDC. But, he still loves training Muay Thai.
Ajarn Wilson is on the list now so he can give you his contact info. Go with him first for MT. If for some un-likely reason that doesn't work out, I can hook you up with Guro Daniels.

Good luck.

William (Bill)

Make her work hard Ajarn Steve

[dtom]

william, are you doing any muay thai in rhode island ?i have been looking for a gym for a while and can't seem to find one.please let me know if you have any recommendations.
thanks

[William]

william, are you doing any muay thai in rhode island ?i have been looking for a gym for a while and can't seem to find one.please let me know if you have any recommendations.
thanks

Hey there,
Yes, I'm training out of the Battleground in EG:

Welcome to the Battleground Training Center

You're more than welcome to stop in and train or just give me a ring to shoot the breeze.

https://www.mongrelcombativearts.com

Take care,
William

[fire cobra]

I know of several people into Muay Thai in the Portland area. There are probably others, but this may be a place to start.

Mike Walrath, Eugene
Excellent 1970s Chaffey College student/instructor under Ajarn Chai that recently had a leison on his spine that put him in a wheelchair. He walks with a cane now and still teaches.
Thai Boxing. Assoc--Eugene Branch
911 River Road
Eugene, OR 97404 Chief Instructor:
Mike Walrath
(541) 607-7033

"Ray Guin
Student of Mike Walrath's that has become a superb flyweight fighter/trainer in his own right. I'm not sure of how to contact him, but Mike Walrath would know. I think he's in the Salem area. Ray trains guys for the ring and has been looking pretty sharp these days. Well, okay, he bobbed 'n weaved in one recent fight and got knocked out with a knee to the face, but hey, he's a fighter."

And thats why there is no bobbing and weaving taught in Muay Thai camps in Thailand.

Leonard Trigg, Tigard/Portland
6'8" boxer. Very good boxing coach. I haven't seen him teach Muay Thai but he is certified to teach
Applied Philosophical Arts Institute
Box 230182
Portland, OR 97281-0182 Chief Instructor:
Leonard Trigg
(503) 590-1667

Steve Wilson
Lives in the Portland area and teaches Muay Thai/Kabri-kabrong, the Thai weapons/battlefield art from which Muay Thai was born. Holds a very senior rank in Kabri-Kabrong, if not the highest ranking guy in the U.S., and trained at Buddhai Sawan under Ajarn Sumai himself. Is also a longtime student of Ajarn Chai Sirisute. AKA Chalambok on this forum.

John Daniels
Lives in Portland area and has students who are active on this forum. See William. I believe his status in Muay Thai may be inactive, but he remains active in Kali & Jun Fan.

Your gender doesn't matter so much as your size. If you train with people who are much larger than you I would recommend you make sure that they are advanced. It is no fun to get thrashed by a bonehead who has 150 pounds on you. An advanced guy won't do that but can throttle down the force to your size and still push you forward with some intensity. The balance isn't always easy to find in a beginner.

Terry

Well, okay, he bobbed 'n weaved in one recent fight and got knocked out with a knee to the face, but hey, he's a fighter.

[Ghost]

slipping and weaving is taught in thailand.
I was taught it at several camps.I mean i knew it already but you know.

[fire cobra]

slipping and weaving is taught in thailand.
I was taught it at several camps.I mean i knew it already but you know.

Ghost,your experience is different to mine,ive trained in around 15 different camps and never been taught to bob and weave,slipping yes,mainly to the outside,bobbing nope,weaving defo nope,and after watching and being part of literally thousands of rounds(over 25 years) i have rarely seen it in the rings of Thailand.
Samart Payakaroon and one or two others could pull it of but in top level company even he didnt overplay that type of move.

[Ghost]

Ghost,your experience is different to mine,ive trained in around 15 different camps and never been taught to bob and weave,slipping yes,mainly to the outside,bobbing nope,weaving defo nope,and after watching and being part of literally thousands of rounds(over 25 years) i have rarely seen it in the rings of Thailand.
Samart Payakaroon and one or two others could pull it of but in top level company even he didnt overplay that type of move.

interesting, a lot of gyms are putting out boxers as well as thai boxers now even if its only one or two.
its true though they dont weave much in the ring, though they should imo and i think in time they will do it more.
i trained with sang tienoi for some time and it was definitely on the menu there as well as well as other places, depends where you go as some gyms simply didnt. nongkee did it too

[fire cobra]

interesting, a lot of gyms are putting out boxers as well as thai boxers now even if its only one or two.
its true though they dont weave much in the ring, though they should imo and i think in time they will do it more.
i trained with sang tienoi for some time and it was definitely on the menu there as well as well as other places, depends where you go as some gyms simply didnt. nongkee did it too

Yeah very interesting Ghost,I think Sangtienoi is used to teaching Farang and we do like to use our hands so maybe a bit of catering going on there,most of the camps i trained at didnt have Farang there and also didnt teach those type of skills.

Interestingly i have some super 8 movie footage from the 1950s in a camp in Thailand,there they are using a top and bottom ball,speed ball,and working hands a lot.

My main teacher was a top boxer in the 60s and he did teach slipping,rolling,and weaving,and was very good at it,however his camp where he learnt was a big punchers camp.

Personally i love those skills but dont teach the roll,bob and weave to my fighters,but do teach slipping.

[Ghost]

Yeah very interesting Ghost,I think Sangtienoi is used to teaching Farang and we do like to use our hands so maybe a bit of catering going on there,most of the camps i trained at didnt have Farang there and also didnt teach those type of skills.

Interestingly i have some super 8 movie footage from the 1950s in a camp in Thailand,there they are using a top and bottom ball,speed ball,and working hands a lot.

My main teacher was a top boxer in the 60s and he did teach slipping,rolling,and weaving,and was very good at it,however his camp where he learnt was a big punchers camp.

Personally i love those skills but dont teach the roll,bob and weave to my fighters,but do teach slipping.

thats very interesting, i didnt know they were doing it back then, would i be right in thinking that around the 70s it sort of disappeared?

[fire cobra]

thats very interesting, i didnt know they were doing it back then, would i be right in thinking that around the 70s it sort of disappeared?

Yeah Ghost,


Ive seen a lot of footage from the mid to late 70s and the style defo changed from being faster footwork,evasion and hand work it became a slower(not slow) pace,and with the likes of Diesel Noi coming along and using the knee so effectively and the use of the long guard position to make the head grab and knee easier and quicker,there were still good punching camps and good punchers(as there is now) like Mangsurin camp.

If you lookmover the years even up to now the punchers tend to also have a good low kick but have to be looking for kos as the rule set(low kicks and punches not scoring so highly unless they have visable effect)makes it hard fir that type of boxer to win over the distance nowadays.

I stand to be corrected by someone with more experience than me on all this Ghost but it is my observations over the years.

[William]

Funny you guys should mention bobbing and weaving.

Before class the other day, one of the other instructors in the gym was sparring with one of my guys and attempted to bob under one of his strikes. Being a nice guy, my guy explained to him that he might not want to do that again “or you might end up with a knee in your face”. We concentrate a lot on knee strikes and also work them against the traditional bob & weave a boxer might use. We utilize footwork, slipping, and waving in and out to move into and out of close range. After resuming their sparring he tried it again a few minutes later…only to be met with a knee starring him in the face. Good thing my guy has control.

Don’t take it as a knock on boxing, it’s not at all. It’s just a different emphasis on offensive and counter-offensive techniques according to weapons used.


Best regards,
William