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    News from Japan:

    K-1 announced before the 12-8 K-1 Grand Prix Finals that it was modifying its rules, outlawing the
    the blumb. While grabbing and kneeing one's opponent for an instant is permissible, clinching
    and working knees, and blumbing around in general is now "against the rules."
    This is a major disappointment for those of us from Muay Thai backgrounds who view the
    blumb as a major part of the art Thaiboxing.
    Granted, in Japan, kickboxing in Japan is a spectator sport, watched for entertainment value
    and in Thailand its main raison d'etre is as a sport to be gambled upon. Modifications to the
    art and sport are expected as it is adapted and adopted to new countries, cultures, and contexts.
    Nevertheless, one would hope (or at least I do) that one, the K-1 enterprise would do more to
    promote the art and sport of Thaiboxing, which, it is needless to say, it developed from; and two,
    that K-1 promoters and fans would recognize and appreciate a fighter who can blumb well, and not appreciate
    only the KO punch or kick.
    So, in short, you can no longer blumb in matches that the biggest, high profile kickboxing
    organization promoting heavy-weight fights (and recently a 70 kilo division) world-wide puts on.
    Again, a major disappointment for Muay
    Thai adherents.

    In a poetic-justice like turn of events, the front page of newspaper the day after the Grand Prix
    had an article that announced that Mr. Ishii, the founder and president of the K-1 enterprise, is
    under investigation for tax evasion.

    On the reverse side of the coin, Kobayashi Satshi--student of Fujiwara Toshio (all those who have
    been to the Thaicamp should know this name)--entered the "Muay Thai Marathon" -- a 8 person
    tournament in Lumpini Stadium on 12-14--and fought to the finals only to
    lose by decision, thus taking 2nd place. A major achievement. So, there are good things coming out of the kickiboxing
    world in Japan.

    More news as it develops.
    Alex Bay
    Yokohama, Japan

  • #2
    As an MT fan I must say I'm dissapointed, but I guess if I want to see MT I might as well watch MT!

    How are things in Yokohama? I used to live in Chigasaki city, five stops south-west of Yokohama station on the Tokaido line. I worked in Yokohama for six months.

    Cheers,

    Tony

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    • #3
      Thanks for the update fugetsu.

      Spanky

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      • #4
        Can you explain blumbing a little better. I think I know what it is .. but never really heard it called that.

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        • #5
          Neither have I.

          I think he might be talking about In-Fighting or grappling for position.

          Hey Jesse,

          do you train at Terry Hill's gym?


          Kyoshu

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          • #6
            Re: Neither have I.

            Originally posted by Kyoshu
            I think he might be talking about In-Fighting or grappling for position.

            Hey Jesse,

            do you train at Terry Hill's gym?


            Kyoshu
            I have been and looked at it and I am going to be at the start of next year as it looks pretty sweet for Muai Thai.

            I didnt want to start there yet until I could fully commit to it. Which = after the holidays.

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            • #7
              Sweet.

              I heard he's probably the best trainer in your area, both for Muay Thai and Sabaki style tournaments.

              He's ref'd a couple of my fights and he seems like a fair guy.


              Kyoshu

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              • #8
                the blumb or plumb

                The blumb or plumb, or kubizumo in Japanese, is the clinching, kneeing, elbowing, and throwing (no doubt headbutting, bitting and probably much more in traditional Muay Thai--Ajarn Steve Wilson, do you want to pipe up here?) aspect of the ring art of Muay Thai. I beleive those who gamble on boxing in Thailand can appreciate the finer aspects of it, can distinguish which fighter is dominant, and in general bet accordingly while watching fighters in the blumb. Those who watch kick or thai boxing for entertainment value might not be able to appreciate the finer points of the art, and admittedly, to begin with, most of the K-1 fighters aren't that good at the blumb.
                As for those not hearing of it called the blumb or the plumb (I am sure there is a standardized romanization of Thai in academic circles, it would be nice to get a standard and go with it), I can only say that if you study Thaiboxing, you should try to familiarize yourself with the Thai terminology.

                Fugetsu

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                • #9
                  Fugetsu,

                  Thanks for the info on Kobayashi. You don't happen to know anything else about that tournament, such as the winner, weight class, other fighters?

                  I admire Kobayashi, he fights top level Thais and has held his own-losing to Samkor and Namsaknoi, but scoring a KO over Rajadamnern Champ Thepparit por Tawatchai.

                  Thanks!

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                  • #10
                    Fugetsu,

                    Thanks for the info on Kobayashi. You don't happen to know anything else about that tournament, such as the winner, weight class, other fighters?

                    I admire Kobayashi, he fights top level Thais and has held his own-losing to Samkor and Namsaknoi, but scoring a KO over Rajadamnern Champ Thepparit por Tawatchai.

                    Thanks!

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                    • #11
                      Kobayashi report

                      Khun Kru Bryan-
                      Here are the details--the names will be transliterated from Japanese into English, so the
                      Thai should be off.
                      Toyota Thailand Muay Thai marathon, 140 pounds
                      1st fight- Kobayashi KO'd in the first round (knee) a fighter from Kamerune
                      2nd fight- KO'd Aussie (Deimo Fan Gym??) in 3rd with the low kick
                      3rd fight- Lost by decision to Buaka-o Po Buramukku

                      So, he didn't actually fight a Thai guy until the last round. Nevertheless, a tough day
                      in the ring for Kobayashi.

                      I am glad he did well. I saw his last fight in Japan (against an Italian guy). He KO'd the guy with a knee in the 2nd round, but looked like shit and got cut on the forehead with an elbow. After that performance
                      I was sure that he would not do well. In his 2nd to last fight, he got royally spanked by Samgo, who
                      gave him a painful lesson in Muay Thai. So, he came through for his fans this time.

                      More news later
                      Alex Bay
                      Last edited by fugetsu; 12-18-2002, 07:54 AM.

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                      • #12
                        Learn something new everyday.

                        Thanks for the info Fugestu.

                        I just train for the sport, not really the culture.

                        Our gyms just runs things in english and the closest thing we get to Thai culture is they come over to fight.

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                        • #13
                          Two very important things to remember about the blumb:
                          1: It is legal in muay Thai to do anything but bite your opponent or to attack him while both of his butt cheeks are on the mat. This has probably been changed in recent years to make the 'sport' more acceptable to the worldwide audience.
                          2: "The blumb cannot be taught, you must learn it yourself." - Grandmaster Surachai Sirisute He means that although many techniques and/or variations can be shown you by someone else, you must explore this facet of muay Thai yourself, using what may work for you and adding what only you can do. All of us are different physically, emoptionally, conceptually. I concur wholeheartedly. If you practice diligently you will find there are things you can do which seem ridiculously simple and things that are very hard which you may or may not be able to do. And we are all vulnerable to different things from different people. The blumb is such an integral and historic part of muay Thai that it is graded higher. A person may seem to be getting beat for 4 rounds then dominate the 5th with his blumb and get the decision. Once you explore muay Thai in depth you will probably agree with the rest of us, the blumb is beautiful.

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                          • #14
                            ok now im confused! what the hell is a blumb?, im sorry but this is silly, is it the clinch or the plumb or the prumb or the blumb? how many names does the technique have? i have always known it to be called the prumb. what the hell is it?

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                            • #15
                              Thais use the clinch extensively in their matches. It's not uncommon to see 3 of 5 rounds fought exclusively in the clinch. It is a messy range and it takes alot of skill to fight in there according to the limits imposed by MT rules. However, all in all, the clinch slows down the fight. It prevents what otherwise may be a knockout (given, it also may allow a knockout, but I think the former happens more often than the latter) from occuring. I love to watch mt, but K-1 results in more knockouts, and without the clinch to slow down the fights, the pace is faster and more entertaining, to me, anyway. K-1 will still allow brief attachments to setup strikes, just not the prolonged grappling matches.

                              Two points made earlier were relevant, I think. The first, most K-1 fighters do not have great prumbs. You have so many fighters coming from so many backgrounds, maybe it's good to remove prolonged clinch matches to find a more even playing field for competitors. Second, if you want to see mt, watch mt. K-1 is a separate sporting event. Baseball is fun to watch when you want to see baseball, and basketball is fun to watch when you want to see basketball.

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